Top 10 subway systems in the country (state, better, map, rates)
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1. DC metro DOES carry more passengers than Chicago's el and Boston's T put together.
Many of us disagree with the narrowly defined parameter that regards all heavy rail as equal and excludes other forms of rail that may serve very similar purposes.
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2. Boston only has 3 subway lines (Red, Orange, Blue). The green line is a light rail and the silver line is a bus.
Technically speaking, Boston has 4 heavy rail lines, as the Red Line is really two lines (the Braintree and Ashmont lines) that converge and run as a single line downtown, much the way many of the WMATA lines share a tunnel in DC proper.
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3. Regional rail and commuter rail isn't a subway, which isn't included in this. The FRA classifies the DC metro as a heavy rail subway system, which it is.
Many of us disagree with the narrowly defined parameter that regards all heavy rail as equal and excludes other forms of rail that may serve very similar purposes.
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4. DC may be small city proper, but its metro population is over 5 million.
Yes, so why is the regional rail ridership so anemic?
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Sheesh, some people just can't face the fact D.C. is out beating bigger cities, especially when it comes to public transit
The DC Metro is a fantastic system. It is modern, well designed, growing, and heavily used. But you should understand that to get an apples to apples comparison, you can't simply say that you will only consider the kind of rail that serves DC, exclude everything else, then brag about the results.
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Wanted to point out something regarding the Green Line in Boston. The ridership is very impressive at 241,000, but it is inaccurate to consider it as a single line. It's really 4 lines that share a subway through downtown. I view the Green Line as an LRT system, and it shouldn't be thought of as something less than that.
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Last edited by HenryAlan; 11-09-2010 at 10:40 AM..
DC's system is a subway point blank. For you yokals to say otherwide is a ridiculous a$$ statement.
I'm no expert but if it sounds like a subway train, looks like a subway train, and performs like a subway train. 9 times out of 10, its gonna be a subway train.
Yeah, Tokyo's ridership and coverage is absolutely nuts.
To give you an idea of how just extensive it is, this is not a complete map:
The one thing you do notice though, and you see it in that video above, when you travel overseas is that train service is always ALWAYS packed. Those guys in the video above, they have a full time job as crushers (I was poked by their clubs and it was not fun).
In Mumbai, I didn't even bother getting on the train:
1.) are all those colorful lines on that map really all train stations and lines?
2.) what is the death toll of civilians in the mumbai pic?
1.) are all those colorful lines on that map really all train stations and lines?
Yup. And not even all of them.
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Originally Posted by jordandubreil
2.) what is the death toll of civilians in the mumbai pic?
Oddly enough, not as high as you would think. All together I spent a year working in BOM and never once did I hear of any one being killed by a train or in traffic. Then again, the normal rules of traffic in Mumbai don't really apply...
1.) are all those colorful lines on that map really all train stations and lines?
read my posts in response to that, on the last page. the map is misleading IMHO.
its the equivalent of getting an MTA map with all rail options on it.
out of curiosity, does a map like that even exist?? something with all the subway lines, the metro north, the long island railroad, the tram and the path on one map? i think if we could post a pic of a map like that then ppl would be just as wowed as they are when looking at that tokyo map which has more than subway lines on it...
read my posts in response to that, on the last page. the map is misleading IMHO.
its the equivalent of getting an MTA map with all rail options on it.
out of curiosity, does a map like that even exist?? something with all the subway lines, the metro north, the long island railroad, the tram and the path on one map? i think if we could post a pic of a map like that then ppl would be just as wowed as they are when looking at that tokyo map which has more than subway lines on it...
I honestly was not misrepresenting anything. I spent a good chunk of my childhood in NYC, so I know about the subway and it is one of the few places that can match up with Tokyo toe to toe. It's just an entirely different beast though.
I looked far and wide for maps with just subway routeds, and it think these two maps give you the best idea:
NYC
Tokyo
One very key difference between the two is the scale of how much area both systems cover. The NYC map above is showing whats in the Five Boroughs. That map for Tokyo is for subways available in the Metro....not including commuter rail, light rail or streetcar lines. And still not a complete listing.
And to make it even, here's the rail map for the whole New York Metro (the City, Jersey, and the other commuter lines)
And here's everything (maybe) in Tokyo.
Again, the Tokyo map is not to a proper scale. For instance, down in the right corner is the listing for Narita Airport....36 miles away from the center of Tokyo.
if you read the map, it specifically tells you that its showing more than just subway lines. JR has private/commuter rail lines.
Tokyo Metro and Toei are two different companies that run various lines.
the map also has street car lines.
this is why i say that its misleading.
it would be like me showing a map of all rail options instead of that dated mta map you posted and putting it up against a map of say...london's underground map or chicago's l map.
if you read the map, it specifically tells you that its showing more than just subway lines. JR has private/commuter rail lines.
Tokyo Metro and Toei are two different companies that run various lines.
the map also has street car lines..
Not sure why that should be pointed out. It's just two different companies (among others) that build and operate subway lines in Tokyo but they all interconnect. It's just like what happened in NYC before the MTA took over.
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this is why i say that its misleading.
it would be like me showing a map of all rail options instead of that dated mta map you posted and putting it up against a map of say...london's underground map or chicago's l map.
I didn't notice that before, but would it really matter. All the stations for those commuter and light rail lines aren't shown. Just transfer points.
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