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View Poll Results: London or New York
London 53 42.06%
New York City 73 57.94%
Voters: 126. You may not vote on this poll

 
 
Old 11-21-2010, 10:55 PM
 
Location: NY
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Once again -- NYC has a $1.46 trillion economy.

 
Old 11-21-2010, 11:13 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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Fine lets take away the Metropolitan Area's contribution to GDP and since we're doing that to New York City, we might as well do that to everyone else too.

City of New York GDP: $551.09 Billion (Just the city, no suburbs, nothing)

And that GDP is higher than any other city (no metro included) in the world. Yes even more than Tokyo which without its Metro would be nothing as significant as it is with its Metropolitan Area. Since you know Metropolitan Areas are considered strengths for cities to rely on.

And now for a NEW list of New York City (only city, no Metro)

New York City by Economic Output, versus the World:
01. United States of America- $14.4 Trillion
02. Japan- $4.88 Trillion
03. China- $4.32 Trillion
04. Germany- $3.6 Trillion
05. France- $2.84 Trillion
06. United Kingdom- $2.65 Trillion
07. Italy- $2.29 Trillion
08. Russia- $1.67 Trillion
09. Spain- $1.59 Trillion
10. Brazil- $1.57 Trillion
11. Canada- $1.49 Trillion
12. India- $1.22 Trillion
13. Mexico- $1.08 Trillion
14. Australia- $989 Billion
15. South Korea- $930 Billion
16. Netherlands- $871 Billion
17. Turkey- $726 Billion
18. New York City- $551.09 Billion

Okay so the actual city (without the help from its Metropolitan Area) still comes out in the Top 20 largest economies in the world. Beating out 180 countries in the process, many of which have millions more people than New York City.

But in all reality the real world doesn't go like that. New York City is indeed powerful and its Metropolitan Area counts every bit as much of it as the inner boroughs, so its Economic Output is still $1.46 Trillion, the 12th largest economy in the world, larger than 49 US States (including its own state NYS), and still the 2nd highest ranking city in terms of GDP after Greater Tokyo.
 
Old 11-22-2010, 01:30 AM
 
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Hey Milkdrinker - why are all you fellow yanks so jealous of NYC? You all should be proud you have such an amazing world class city in your country. NYC is on a level your second tier cities like LA Chicago and SF could only pray to be. Sorry, folks, if you dis NY, you dis your country.
Some American diss NYC because they are jealous and are basically hating on NYC.

It's the same in the UK, where folks in Manchester or Birmingham will say negative things about London.
 
Old 11-22-2010, 01:30 AM
 
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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Old 11-22-2010, 01:35 AM
 
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I don't know if the quality of life is worst than in NYC... IMO it's better! Most people in NYC live in poverty... don't forget that... and the poverty in NYC is as bad as in the 3rd world countries!
NYC is one of the wealthiest cities on earth.

You posted pictures of horrible-looking housing projects in dirt-poor inland Chinese cities.
 
Old 11-22-2010, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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I don't know if the quality of life is worst than in NYC... IMO it's better! Most people in NYC live in poverty... don't forget that... and the poverty in NYC is as bad as in the 3rd world countries!
WHAT the hell or you talking about?Are you serious.Thats nowhere close to the truth at all!15.8% is the poverty rate in NYC.Its more than double that in evenn emerging third world countries.
 
Old 11-22-2010, 08:26 AM
 
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Originally Posted by DANNYY View Post
Fine lets take away the Metropolitan Area's contribution to GDP and since we're doing that to New York City, we might as well do that to everyone else too.

City of New York GDP: $551.09 Billion (Just the city, no suburbs, nothing)

And that GDP is higher than any other city (no metro included) in the world. Yes even more than Tokyo which without its Metro would be nothing as significant as it is with its Metropolitan Area. Since you know Metropolitan Areas are considered strengths for cities to rely on.

And now for a NEW list of New York City (only city, no Metro)

New York City by Economic Output, versus the World:
01. United States of America- $14.4 Trillion
02. Japan- $4.88 Trillion
03. China- $4.32 Trillion
04. Germany- $3.6 Trillion
05. France- $2.84 Trillion
06. United Kingdom- $2.65 Trillion
07. Italy- $2.29 Trillion
08. Russia- $1.67 Trillion
09. Spain- $1.59 Trillion
10. Brazil- $1.57 Trillion
11. Canada- $1.49 Trillion
12. India- $1.22 Trillion
13. Mexico- $1.08 Trillion
14. Australia- $989 Billion
15. South Korea- $930 Billion
16. Netherlands- $871 Billion
17. Turkey- $726 Billion
18. New York City- $551.09 Billion

Okay so the actual city (without the help from its Metropolitan Area) still comes out in the Top 20 largest economies in the world. Beating out 180 countries in the process, many of which have millions more people than New York City.

But in all reality the real world doesn't go like that. New York City is indeed powerful and its Metropolitan Area counts every bit as much of it as the inner boroughs, so its Economic Output is still $1.46 Trillion, the 12th largest economy in the world, larger than 49 US States (including its own state NYS), and still the 2nd highest ranking city in terms of GDP after Greater Tokyo.
GDP is irrelevant (especially for a bankrupt city like NY)! I want to know the GDI/capita.
 
Old 11-22-2010, 11:42 AM
 
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you'd think a city with half a trillion dollar output would have a more efficient system of getting rid of trash right. instead its glamorous shiny black bags lining the streets of its most prestigious borough.
but even with all the garbage, the horrific traffic and nauseating fumes i'd rather live there than london. id never live in england. yikes.
 
Old 11-22-2010, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Los Gatos, CA
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you'd think a city with half a trillion dollar output would have a more efficient system of getting rid of trash right. instead its glamorous shiny black bags lining the streets of its most prestigious borough.
but even with all the garbage, the horrific traffic and nauseating fumes i'd rather live there than london. id never live in england. yikes.

...right, and NYC is still one of the world's most desirable/successful/popular/visited/highly ranked (and for a reason). NYC's 1.46 trillion dollar economy and it being by far the most visited city in the United States by people across the globe is a symbol of its success and immense popularity. You sound a bit jealous (but it's only human nature to envious of something so heralded -- sort of like the Prom King/Queen scenario).

Last edited by SV808; 11-22-2010 at 12:07 PM..
 
Old 11-22-2010, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Denver
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I stand corrected. I'm actually surprised that the rest of the UK accounts for such a large percentage of the country's output - you would think most of it would go through the capital. It also is a good counter-argument to the poster earlier in this thread who claimed that London has little competition from other cities in its country.

Then again looking at the numbers from London, they are taken from greater London only (7.5 million population) and not surrounding regions which in a US-style census could be considered part of the metropolitan area.

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/pdfdir/gva1209.pdf (broken link)
One thing that should be noted is that "Greater" London is not the metro area. It is London as we know it. Technically, the "City of London" is a small, 1 square mile area in the middle of London. It only has about 7,500 people if I'm not mistaken, as it is about 90% commercial offices. "Greater" London is the 32 surrounding Boroughs which come together to create the city we know as London. Metropolitan London is much larger than 7.5 million. I believe it's closer to 15 million.

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This is kind of true because my professor told me that when 9/11 happened it effected the whole country.
I hate to open up this can of worms but...of course it did. Just like Hurricane Katrina affected the entire country. Such a catastrophe would affect the entire country regardless of the city it occurred in.

Please, please, please, please, please...let's not get into a debate over which was more devastating to the country. This happened on a different thread, and it's beyond bad. They were both horrible events in our nation's history. Let's not try to say which was worse.
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