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Good. So I can go to Sanfran and live off of welfare? Cuz I'm definitley not trying to work for a living, I would rather just live for free off of other peoples riches. I don't aspire to be rich, I just need a sponsor.
Your an idiot and thats not how soicalism works.
Your fired, Get the f@ck out of here!!!!!!
Idealism is lovely, in practicality it doesnt work but professors in accademic settings sure find it's pontification sexy.
I guess this new American socialism would be the first succesful governance of its type in the history of the world
I am by no means a right winged conservative and most definately not a left winged liberal but continue to embrace failed governance. One day you pay your own bills and your tune may change but until then enjoy my friend because the ideal world is very glamorous until asked to pay for it
We belive in a balanced capitalism and socialism society. Like we still encourage capitalism and buisness growth but we are thy brothers keepers and we should take care of the less fortunates in our society.
We propose free health care, rent control, public ownership of utility and transportaion comapines, we belive in feeding the needy and tax breaks for middle class and lower class people. We belive in taxing the highest income bracket. We belive in a world class education that should be free for all our citizens. These are the fundamentals of Liberal SF politics.
If you have a problem with this, your probably a deuch bag who voted for Bush and McCain.
Oh yeah and I almost forgot that we are strong supporters of legalizing and taxing Marijuana.
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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Well lets look at the top ten fortune 500 comapnies in Texas.
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Oh so the conversation goes from Fortune 500 companies straight to the Top 10 of the F500's in Texas now does it? Wow, what a coward you are. And a very low intellect you possess.
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It seems to me that out of the top 10. 4 companies are directly tied into Big Oil and the rest are tied into the miltary industrial complex. So much for your crappy example.
My crappy example?
The rest are tied to Military? What the devil kind of drug are you doing? AT&T is a military installment now? Gee i could have sworn it was a freakin phone company. Sysco the Tech company, Flour the Programming company, & American Airlines the Airline company all of which by your list are in the top 10 in Texas are all of a sudden military companies now?
You have got to be freakin kidding me. There is no way on Earth anyone can be this freakin stupid.
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And it is you who is "sad" putting money above everything except your family. So much things in life matter more then money besides just family.
What about freedom, equality, respect for life and liberty, the enviroment and our world, respect for our fellow human beings, love, happiness, health.
Like I already said, I do like other things. I just find capitalism to be very important and honestly yes. I stand by what I said, view it whatever way.
My family is capitalist Singaporean/Asian Indian, we come from a capitalist background, thus we'll continue to support American Capitalism, because that's what made America the economical giant to the world that it is today, and hell yes that's what is making China a power to reckon with today as well.
I'm Asian, most countries in Asia do put capitalism ahead of any kind of monetary system.
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Im glad my SF Giants pounded the Texas Rangers in the World Series.
I'm not from Dallas-Fort Worth and I was actually for the Giants, I hate Dallas's Sports Teams. Especially the Mavericks.
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To us californias, you Texans are backwards. Im sure my NYC people feel me on that!
I'm from Illinois, born in Chicago (still live there), and have lived in Singapore, India, and then finally Houston. My father is a New Yorker himself, he's always been capitalist.
New York is the capital of capitalism, there is one place that knows how to make bank and establish power from doing so, that place is most definitely New York City.
I'm done responding to your posts, you've clearly made a thread thinking San Francisco is only the Peninsula and nothing else in the Bay Area matters.
You've brought a state that has nothing to do with this comparison into this.
You're going on tangents telling me what I prioritize in life, when I didn't even tell you I put money above all those things you listed. I just said I love money.
You're making up arbitrary definitions for your own personal New York divisions to settle in for your Anti-New Jersey Agenda.
Then you're going off in tangents again and assuming people are from a certain place because they defend it.
And lastly you continue to demonize your point repeatedly, not one person here has agreed with you at all. And you continue to persist on the fact that you're right.
And just to be on the balance, no I don't put money ahead of everything besides family and friends, I think it is indeed the next most important thing after those though and tied with education.
Help the fellow man? Yeah I do that, but I'm not going out of my way to help anyone that I don't know.
Help the environment? Yeah sure, I'll do what I can and recycle and stuff but again I am not going out of my way in my personal life to do anything astounding about it either.
And as for being fat and out of shape and your other retarded stereotypes because of where you think I'm supposedly from. No, I workout on a daily basis, am very proactive and lead a proactive lifestyle for much of the year. Also am not a Republican or a Conservative by any means, but also not a extreme leftist either. And never driven a pick up truck or anything like that before. I drive a Japanese sedan, and this is my way of telling you that you are an insecure close minded stereotyping individual who has not contributed to anything of solid use in this discussion.
Idealism is lovely, in practicality it doesnt work but professors in accademic settings sure find it's pontification sexy.
I guess this new American socialism would be the first succesful governance of its type in the history of the world
I am by no means a right winged conservative and most definately not a left winged liberal but continue to embrace failed governance. One day you pay your own bills and your tune may change but until then enjoy my friend because the ideal world is very glamorous until asked to pay for it
So "idealism" created social security, Medicare, Obama care, unemployment insurance, bankruptcy, etc? Americans tend to forget how socialistic the nation actually is and let fools like the Tea Party try to move the country back in time. Californians continue to strive for what is fair for the individual and what is best for the community. Yet the hordes in the South and Midwest in their incredible ignorance call that "communistic" and vow to "take back America" Thank God they are limited by their IQ's and that the Coasts essentially run the United States.
Ok Californio Sur, it is obvious you are at the extreme left and that is ok but seriously San Francisco politics is not good. I am all for gay rights. That's not what I'm talking about. Ridiculous laws like banning Happy Meals and circumcision does nothing for SF or California. It has to end at some point. I believe a state/city that isn't too extreme on either side is what I like. Texas is too far right like WAY too far right. California is left which I like but San Francisco is too far left. There has to be a balance. It seems like you see democrats as extreme left and Republicans as extreme right. I am a democrat but there are things I disagree with in the party like being too regulating about everything.
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Isn't cali the state that gave us Ronal Regan(Mr. trickle down economics)? Doesn't cali have a republican governor? California is not immune to greed. If it was truely economically to the left I doubt so many celebs and rich people would call it home. California is socially liberal, no doubt, but its not as fiscally liberal as some people lead on. Detroit, is/was the best example of extreme leftist fiscal policy in America.
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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Dystopia is always created in pursuit of Utopia.
I think there might be a certain point where every person is responsible for what they support and what they don't. I find it nearly impossible to support politics in general.
Because what place is essentially perfect? There is no Utopia on Earth and nothing can come close. Natural disasters, weather, prices, the dangers of humanity and other factors will always exist no matter what place you go.
Politically is it best to support the Democrat party because it detests the Republican party? Or vice versa, the Americanism in that Two Party System is probably creating the most divided time in our country's history since the Anti-federalists & Federalists (Jefferson Vs. Adams). Things like the Midnight Judges, these things have gone and occurred in American society already.
There is a lot to be proud of being an American, but our political history is not one of those things. We rifted from the Old World (England) because of Taxes and Embargos, and those are the same rifts today that causes people from certain states to say "we'd be better of not being in America" or "I put my state first and then my country" and things of that nature.
Overall I our current political structure to be a failed system. There is no political party in America that I can say I agree with to full extent, and that's because there is no perfect party.
I like some ideas here and there, but ultimately no party can be successful in keeping a flourishing country going until they learn to collaborate with each other. Finger pointing is all that is done in America, and City-Data is no exception to that rule.
Pointing fingers at whose fault it is wont get our manufacturing sector back from China, it wont get our telecommunications sector back from India, it wont get our shipments back from Vietnam, and it wont get our agricultural productions from depending on Mexico.
But that's the way life works, Marxism and the followers for Marxism will never see their glory day. This world has social classes and social statuses. Production was cheap, affordable, & prosperous for our corporations going to China, India, Vietnam, Brazil, Mexico, & Others that we got used to the idea. Capitalism is very much real and it's here to stay.
America is innovative, and that's the silver lining to the continuation of our economic prosperity that we are indeed one of the most innovative (if not the most) country in the world.
Ok Californio Sur, it is obvious you are at the extreme left and that is ok but seriously San Francisco politics is not good. I am all for gay rights. That's not what I'm talking about. Ridiculous laws like banning Happy Meals and circumcision does nothing for SF or California. It has to end at some point. I believe a state/city that isn't too extreme on either side is what I like. Texas is too far right like WAY too far right. California is left which I like but San Francisco is too far left. There has to be a balance. It seems like you see democrats as extreme left and Republicans as extreme right. I am a democrat but there are things I disagree with in the party like being too regulating about everything.
Its wonderful that California has plenty of people on both extremes and many in the middle.
Your constant picking on SF doesnt change the fact that its still one of the most successful and affluent cities in the world, with by far the best downtown for 1,500 miles in any direction. The city is a magnet of very highly educated people and they are more open minded to ideas and concepts that others might not get.
Its wonderful that California has plenty of people on both extremes and many in the middle.
Your constant picking on SF doesnt change the fact that its still one of the most successful and affluent cities in the world, with by far the best downtown for 1,500 miles in any direction. The city is a magnet of very highly educated people and they are more open minded to ideas and concepts that others might not get.
And that's okay. Isnt it?
Honestly, I don't care if it has the "best downtown" or "highly educated" people. It is overpraised and overrated. Period. The crime and dirtiness is always overlooked. Cities that lean too far in either direction are a turn off. I like cities where people don't all think the same way. Cities where everyone has their own beliefs left or right. Cities that are too extreme either way are like a clan of robots. They just do what the other person does and have no thoughts of their own. The hippy culture, crime, dirtiness, overratedness drives me up the wall about SF. Same with Portland.
Man, you are retarted
you freakin idiot.
you freakin moron.
ROTFLMAO...this is hilarious.
Furthermore, You have not proven in any way, shape or form, that Pescadero and Novato are more integrated with San Francisco, they are both physically further away, and also politically, socially and culturally far less than being like SF than either Oakland or Berkeley.
In fact, you've failed miserably to make any meaningful case for anything you've said.
Stanford is in Santa Clara County, you make too much about some strange issue of campus land, but everyone knows where Stanford is-you seem to be the one dying to have Stanford if only to give your area an air of credibility with respect to higher education.
Furthermore, UCSF is indeed a grad school:
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The University of California is the premier system of public higher education in California, with nine undergraduate campuses and, in San Francisco, one graduate campus in the health sciences. Admission to UC is competitive and many students who attend UC are preparing for graduate or professional study beyond the bachelor's degree.
Lastly,
Santa Rosa is NOT the 'hub' of Solano or Napa County in any way, shape or form. Santa Rosa is more of a hub for Mendocino and Lake Counties which are not even in the Bay Area. Fail Miserably.
When you advance in your understanding of the geopolitical landscape of the Bay Area, then you will come to comprehend.
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Thank God they are limited by their IQ's and that the Coasts essentially run the United States.