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Old 11-30-2010, 08:29 PM
 
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6. Shopping: The only upscale department store that Minneapolis does not have is Neiman Marcus, so for the most part I would say shopping is tied. Plus they have Trader Joe's in MSP.
Wrong. There is a Neiman Marcus in downtown Minneapolis.



1. Urban: Minneapolis - St. Paul

2. Public Transit: Minneapolis - St. Paul
Bus:
Metro Transit has a 127 bus routes
DART has 113 bus routes

Light Rail:
DART has 3 lines
Metro transit has 1 and 1 under construction;

Commuter Rail:
Each has a commuter rail line

Average Weekday Ridership (2010, Q2)
Metro Transit: 252,300
DART: 191,600

3. Skylines: Dallas is slightly better than Minneapolis. Minneapolis is better than St. Paul. St. Paul beats Fort Worth.

4. Sports: TIE

5. Downtowns: Downtown Minneapolis

6. Shopping:
Dallas

7. The Arts: Minneapolis - St. Paul

8. Museums: Minneapolis - St. Paul

9. Music: Minneapolis - St. Paul

10. Architecture: Minneapolis & St. Paul

11. Climate: Dallas - Fort Worth

12. Economy: Dallas - Fort Worth

13. Neighborhoods: ??

14. Night life: ??

15. Airport: DFW International
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Old 12-01-2010, 01:51 PM
 
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^^ Really? You can't go outside 9 months a year? Which 9 months are those? This was an unseasonably cold november but even if you count november as one you can't normally go outside in, which do you count as the other 8? I'm curious because leaves are normally out on trees in april and aren't gone until november. Are you trying to say you can't go out in november, december, january, february, march, april, may, june, and july?

lol I was using a lil minnesota sarcasm... take a deep breath...close your eyes..relax..unclench
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Old 12-01-2010, 02:52 PM
 
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^^ Really? You can't go outside 9 months a year? Which 9 months are those? This was an unseasonably cold november but even if you count november as one you can't normally go outside in, which do you count as the other 8? I'm curious because leaves are normally out on trees in april and aren't gone until november. Are you trying to say you can't go out in november, december, january, february, march, april, may, june, and july?
No, your interpretation is all wrong...

I choose Minnesota because I LIKE cold weather..and I DISLIKE hot...pretty obvious..
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Old 12-02-2010, 02:07 AM
 
Location: classified
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Wrong. There is a Neiman Marcus in downtown Minneapolis.
Right I got that store confused with Saks Fifth Avenue which was turned into an outlet (which is why I did not count it).
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Old 12-20-2010, 08:39 PM
 
Location: Dallas,Texas
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Houston's Galleria could compete with MoA. Dallas has no such equivalent but NorthPark is the best fit under the circumstances.

MoA vs. NorthPark? One has a Bloomingdale's while the other lacks one. Can you guess which one? (Hint: Surprisingly for an "upscale" mall, it lacks a Bloomie's, while the other, more mainstream mall, has one).
NorthPark has Neiman-Marcus, Dillard's, Macy's, Nordstrom, and Barneys New York.
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Old 12-21-2010, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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No, your interpretation is all wrong...

I choose Minnesota because I LIKE cold weather..and I DISLIKE hot...pretty obvious..
That response was to the post BEFORE yours....not yours.
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Old 12-21-2010, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Dallas,Texas
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1. Urban: Minneapolis (warehouse district)
2. Public Transit: dallas dart
3. Skylines: dallas
4. Sports: dallas
5. Downtowns: minneapolis
6. Shopping: Mall of America and Nicollete (Dallas has nothing that big)
7. The Arts: Minneapolis
8. Museums: tie
9. Music: Dallas
10. Architecture: Minneapolis
11. Climate: Minneapolis
12. Economy: Dallas
13. Neighborhoods: warehouse district
14. Night life: tie
15. Airport: DFW
Mall of America is only 500,000 sq ft bigger than NorthPark by retail space.
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Old 12-21-2010, 04:44 PM
 
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Mall of America is only 500,000 sq ft bigger than NorthPark by retail space.
MOA's Phase II will add 5,200,000 sq. feet (doubling the mall's size) and will include more retail space.
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Old 12-21-2010, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Dallas,Texas
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MOA's Phase II will add 5,200,000 sq. feet (doubling the mall's size) and will include more retail space.
If it gets built.
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Old 12-22-2010, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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If it gets built.
That's completely true, but most locals here know that it's not a matter of "if", it's a matter of "when" it gets built. The land surrounding the MOA is often praised as the most valuable land in the Midwest (including Chicago), so what eventually gets built there has to be relatively extravagant to support the investment, and since the economy is terrible right now, it's not the best time to build a "spec" 5 million RSF retail development, but the market CAN support this space when the economy begins to rebound.

In general, the MOA doesn't have very unique stores but the experience and the foot traffic will keep it a popular desination that is nationally recognized. It's a success story that is hard to recreate, but I shudder to call it the Twin Cities' tourist destination -- I'd rather that title belong to the Chain of Lakes, which is more authentic to the area.
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