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Old 06-03-2013, 09:24 PM
 
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Dallas has trails, big lakes, golf courses, and a river as well (Not much of a river though)

The following lakes are in Dallas: Lake Ray Hubbard (35.54 sq mi), White Rock Lake (1.959 sq mi), Mountain Creek Lake (4.334 sq mi), Bachman Lake (205 acres), etc.

Dallas has old mansions as well. Have you ever heard of the Swiss Avenue Historic District? You have to realize that Minneapolis is around the same age as Dallas. (Minneapolis: established in 1855, Dallas: established in 1841)

In what way is Twin Cities better planned than DFW?
Those houses are nice. We have a lot more neighborhood historic homes, not just mansions. Also, White Rock Lake imo is the only nice looking one there. It reminds me of Lake Harriet up here. Also how far apart are those lakes from each other, 30 miles? Again you have to drive a long distance to get to any of these lakes, I can walk to the chain of lakes up here. To your question I've already answered that. It was a response to a guy who said the reason everything there is stupidly spread out like it is was because the suburbs were powerful which to me is a weak excuse. You didn't really refute anything I said. You just said DFW had a faster growing population.

"Coincidentally MSP created the Met Council in the 60's to prevent the very thing you're talking about. It was created to prevent suburbs and other entities from constantly competing and poaching jobs and other resources from each other. This is why all the major amenities and destinations are centrally located and easy to get too which will make any future transit system more efficient unlike in DFW where the airport, universities, businesses, stadiums, and other places are stupidly scattered in random directions which means driving 10 miles out of your way to get to anything. It also prevented businesses from being scattered all over the place, instead the majority of the jobs and company hq's in the metro are centrally located. It also was ahead of it's time back then for preventing farmland from being destroyed to build cheap tract housing. That's way we have an abundance of local and organic farms just 20 miles from the city which is also why we have so many farmers markets and co-ops. Anyway, all this just confirms my point. The Twin Cities are more long term and forward thinking."
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Old 06-03-2013, 09:36 PM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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Those houses are nice. We have a lot more neighborhood historic homes, not just mansions. Also, White Rock Lake imo is the only nice looking one there. It reminds me of Lake Harriet up here. Also how far apart are those lakes from each other, 30 miles? Again you have to drive a long distance to get to any of these lakes, I can walk to the chain of lakes up here. To your question I've already answered that. It was a response to a guy who said the reason everything there is stupidly spread out like it is was because the suburbs were powerful which to me is a weak excuse. You didn't really refute anything I said. You just said DFW had a faster growing population.

"Coincidentally MSP created the Met Council in the 60's to prevent the very thing you're talking about. It was created to prevent suburbs and other entities from constantly competing and poaching jobs and other resources from each other. This is why all the major amenities and destinations are centrally located and easy to get too which will make any future transit system more efficient unlike in DFW where the airport, universities, businesses, stadiums, and other places are stupidly scattered in random directions which means driving 10 miles out of your way to get to anything. It also prevented businesses from being scattered all over the place, instead the majority of the jobs and company hq's in the metro are centrally located. It also was ahead of it's time back then for preventing farmland from being destroyed to build cheap tract housing. That's way we have an abundance of local and organic farms just 20 miles from the city which is also why we have so many farmers markets and co-ops. Anyway, all this just confirms my point. The Twin Cities are more long term and forward thinking."
You're trying too hard man.

If your response was to my post, my point wasn't that the suburbs are more powerful, it was that Dallas, Fort Worth, and their suburbs are more powerful, important, and global than Minneapolis, St. Paul, and their suburbs. That makes the competition between the two much more stuff than in Minnesota.
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Old 06-03-2013, 10:00 PM
 
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You're trying too hard man.

If your response was to my post, my point wasn't that the suburbs are more powerful, it was that Dallas, Fort Worth, and their suburbs are more powerful, important, and global than Minneapolis, St. Paul, and their suburbs. That makes the competition between the two much more stuff than in Minnesota.
I never said they weren't and once again I don't care. The MSP metro is better planned and Minnesota is a far better run state period. I've already explain the reasons why more than once. You seem to keep going back to the "well Texas is bigger, DFW is bigger" mantra when tells me you don't really have a rebuttal to my points. If you can't refute what I said then it's best we end this argument.
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Old 06-03-2013, 11:13 PM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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Last I checked beaches and mountains were nowhere near DFW itself. MSP has big lakes, parks, golf courses, the Mississippi river, river bluffs, trails, and an urban waterfall right in the cities themselves. That's not even counting Lake Minnetonka 15 miles west, Downtown Stillwater and the St Croix river 25 miles east, and the various pre WWII brownstones, mansions, and other buildings in the two cities themselves. Save yourself from sounding silly by trying to argue that Dallas has anything that can remotely compete with all of the above. So, we've closed three arguments. MSP has far better scenery, architecture, and as a metro is far better planned. Next...
Next is...

who has the better airport?
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Old 06-04-2013, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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I never said they weren't and once again I don't care. The MSP metro is better planned and Minnesota is a far better run state period. I've already explain the reasons why more than once. You seem to keep going back to the "well Texas is bigger, DFW is bigger" mantra when tells me you don't really have a rebuttal to my points. If you can't refute what I said then it's best we end this argument.
Again youre trying too hard.

It depends on whats important to you. Minneapolis/St. Paul is nice for a visit between May and September, I would never entertain the thought of living there. The weather is alone is a deal breaker and I demand a higher level of diversity (in people and food) than what the Twin Cities offer. Im well aware that there are more outdoor activities in close proximity to the Twin Cities, but to me, thats where the list of things that I would find beneficial ends. You obviously have your own list of things that you find important that steers you to MSP. Good for you.
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Old 06-04-2013, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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Next is...

who has the better airport?
You can fly a lot more places from DFW (internationally and domestically), but MSP has a very nice airport as well.
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Old 06-04-2013, 10:37 AM
 
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DFW airport > MSP airport
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Old 06-04-2013, 11:00 AM
 
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DFW airport > MSP airport
Based on what?
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Old 06-04-2013, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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Based on what?
How about number of nonstop destinations both domestic and international? Number of foreign flag carriers? Number of flights per day?
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Old 06-04-2013, 11:23 AM
 
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How about number of nonstop destinations both domestic and international? Number of foreign flag carriers? Number of flights per day?
Well, I guess if I were a frequent international flyer that would matter, but I'm not so, I don't really care how many international flights either airport has and the number of foreign flag carriers and flights per day does not make one better than the other. Honestly, DFW International is the main hub for one of the largest carriers in the world so to say that it has more foreign flag carriers than a secondary hub is childish.
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