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Don't say what you think, you don't think like a Philadelphian. I do. And New York newspapers are NOT sold throughout our city. Philadelphians YOUNG and old are provincial, remember that this is just city data, the average person does not think about cities.
How provincial can young people in Philadelphia be, if there are long lines of young people lined up all day long to take discount buses to New York City? Not to mention all the young people taking the train to NYC.
Wawa is a convenience store located all over Philadelphia. They sell the New York Post, the New York Daily News, and the New York Times. So do many Acme grocery stores.
How provincial can young people in Philadelphia be, if there are long lines of young people lined up all day long to take discount buses to New York City? Not to mention all the young people taking the train to NYC.
Wawa is a convenience store located all over Philadelphia. They sell the New York Post, the New York Daily News, and the New York Times. So do many Acme grocery stores.
I'm a young person and I don't find most of my native peers provincial in the slightest. I think the answer you'll get is going to greatly depend on the circles you run in. An affluent person with an advanced degree from somewhere like Center City or the Main Line is going to have a much different perspective from a working/lower middle class high school graduate from Upper Darby or Port Richmond. I will say my older relatives from working class backgrounds are a bit more on the provincial side, but nowhere near the point of "willful ignorance."
It's no different from the fact that someone picked at random from the Upper West Side is probably going to be more "worldly" than someone from Bensonhurst.
How provincial can young people in Philadelphia be, if there are long lines of young people lined up all day long to take discount buses to New York City? Not to mention all the young people taking the train to NYC.
Wawa is a convenience store located all over Philadelphia. They sell the New York Post, the New York Daily News, and the New York Times. So do many Acme grocery stores.
Yes as Philadelphians are just dying to be New Yorkers.
I'm a young person and I don't find most of my native peers provincial in the slightest. I think the answer you'll get is going to greatly depend on the circles you run in. An affluent person with an advanced degree from somewhere like Center City or the Main Line is going to have a much different perspective from a working/lower middle class high school graduate from Upper Darby or Port Richmond. I will say my older relatives from working class backgrounds are a bit more on the provincial side, but nowhere near the point of "willful ignorance."
It's no different from the fact that someone picked at random from the Upper West Side is probably going to be more "worldly" than someone from Bensonhurst.
I agree. People in Philadelphia do not have some monolithic mindset, any more than people in New York City or Chicago all think the same way.
This topic must be of interest to some, considering that the topic has been the source of at least 8 separate threads on this website since 2009.
This topic always has the same theme. You get a bunch of New Yorkers from Queens and Brooklyn who feel the need to draw a distinct line between NY and NJ. You get a bunch of Jerseyans who fire back and insist that if you ignore map lines and official designations, northeast Jersey is just as tied to Manhattan as Queens is, geographically and culturally. And then you get the Manhattanites who sit back amused and say get over yourselves - you're all the same to us...B & T.
To most of the world, northeast Jersey is an extension of NYC. If you go back in history, the 5 boroughs were 5 independent cities. If you go back even more, Jersey was governed as the Province of New York. Within the NYC Metropolitan area, there are some rivalries and NJ does have the "suburb stigma". Which is true to some extent. Jersey will always be a tad more laid back and have less hustling mentality (if anything, you can say New Yorkers move out to Jersey because they want this). Jerseyans usually don't pay as much attention to style (probably because they're not walking as much). Even in Hoboken or JC, there is less hustle and bustle compared to Flushing Queens. Aside from those factors, it shares pretty much everything culturally. We all grow up with the same radio and TV stations. When 9/11 happened, a huge percentage of the victims were commuters from NJ - we share the same tragedies. When the blackouts happened, I know Jerseyans that were stuck in the subway as well. And frankly, many Jersey commuters spend more hours in the day in NYC.
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