Chicago vs. NYC (living, best, cost, state)

[kidphilly]

Originally Posted by urbanologist

NYC and Chicago great cities in my book.

seconded

[Nafster]

Originally Posted by urbanologist

NYC and Chicago great cities in my book.

From some of the posts on this thread, I'd think different.

[RS085]

Originally Posted by Lizz0rd

Oh the irony... You take statistical facts as put downs. Can you actually refute ANYTHING I've said? And Chicago is NOT the runner up to NYC... in what? Skylines? Despite a 5000 high rise gap? It most CERTAINLY is not in things like population, gdp, culture, politics, education, media, music, film,...NONE OF THEM! You know, things that actually matter?
LA is #2 and has been for 3-4 decades. Chicago is arguably not even the #3 anymore, personally I would give that to Washington DC. Only a Chicagoan or Midwesterner would think Chicago is #2 behind NYC. I am seriously LOLOLOLing right now. You guys keep living in your delusional world though. I'll live in this thing called reality.

Most Skyscrapers | Statistics | EMPORIS

Hong Kong - 1,223
NYC - 563
Tokyo - 344
Chicago - 282

Hong Kong has twice as many skyscrapers as NYC. NYC has twice as many as Chicago.

You need to know what the actual definition of a highrise is, and no, its not as vague a term as you think.

[ChikidII]

Originally Posted by Lizz0rd

I got your point, and I agree with you. Conceded, you are correct at the nature of film industry and why they are in Toronto/Vancouver/LA. My comment on the actors there, did not precede them establishing a film industry. I just don't see why it was a relevant discussion to why Toronto is a better cultural experience than Chicago. I thought we were having a pretty decent debate actually.

Film/tv production/theater ... i.e. having actors and industry is HIGHLY beneficial to the culture experience and general creativeness of a city. That is why cities like New Orleans and Atlanta are pushing so hard right now to get more and keep them there.

I can't say the same for urbanologists sarcastic remarks.

We were. it wasn't so much you, it was other people. I also need to stop visitng City vs. City because it will try your patience. That's really what I meant.

[RS085]

Originally Posted by Lizz0rd

It doesn't... When did I say that? NYC is WAY above Chicago. That's a given. As I said, you could split NYC into 3 cities and all of them would have a larger population than Chicago with more going on... That should tell you something. The only thing why people think Chicago is like NYC is b/c of the skyline, but NYC has something like 5000 more highrises than Chicago. It's truly a ridiculous comparison. These are FACTS.
None of these are slights on Chicago. Chicago is an amazing city, it's just not in the same dimension as NYC.

Only Manhattan and Brooklyn. Youre nitpicking. Queens, the Bronx and Staten Island do not have "more going on."

Thats a more practical comparison anyway, not splitting the city up into thirds.

[RS085]

Originally Posted by ChikidII

We were. it wasn't so much you, it was other people. I also need to stop visitng City vs. City because it will try your patience. That's really what I meant.

Dude, thats why I barely come on here. They even attacked another NYer in here because he complimented Chicago. Its ridiculous.

The polls sure dont reflect their "not even close" mindset.

[RS085]

Honestly, IMO, NYC is the superior city, but that doesnt necessarily mean better. Chicago presents a better quality of life. Some of you people make Chicago out to be a third world city.

NYers live to work. Chicago works to live. I know its the City That Works, but it seems they enjoy themselves a hell of a lot more than NYers do. Maybe its the East Coast stigma of status, maybe it isnt. Who knows, but not everyones idea of a "city" is NYC. Chicago doesnt seem nearly as serious about its worklife than NYC. Tristann talks about 24 hour delis and being out til 4am. Please, how many times have I been out in the city around 3 or 4 or even 5. Its pretty dead at those hours for the most part. Its not this 24 hour party as some make it out to be. After about 3am most of the city nightlife consists of drunks making the trek home, either alone or with a group and garbage men. If you deny this, then I question that you even live in NY. The vibe dies down pretty quickly after 3.

We're all human beings, I think we can form our own opinions, without being told what the better city is, no?

For the record, I live in Central Jersey, am from Queens, and spent a decent amount of time in Chicago.

[alexander8]

I don't agree, sorry.

[FAReastcoast]

Originally Posted by RS085

Most Skyscrapers | Statistics | EMPORIS

Hong Kong - 1,223
NYC - 563
Tokyo - 344
Chicago - 282

Hong Kong has twice as many skyscrapers as NYC. NYC has twice as many as Chicago.

You need to know what the actual definition of a highrise is, and no, its not as vague a term as you think.

Emporis defines a Skyscraper as 100 meters (~308 ft), that is not the same definition as a highrise.

[RS085]

Originally Posted by FAReastcoast

Emporis defines a Skyscraper as 100 meters (~308 ft), that is not the same definition as a highrise.

Yes, and thats what matters. Saying NYC has 5,000 more highrises (which is wrong) than Chicago and using that as a benchmark for superiority is laughable.

Skyscrapers matter, not highrises.

Sao Paolo, Shanghai and Tokyo probably have more highrises than NYC and Chicago combined.

We wouldnt necessarily say their highrise count makes them better, would we?