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i'm not saying LA isn't international. of course it is..
south asians ha - lancaster right? is that the valley? i have no idea
DC is also very international, and city proper makes it feel more
concentrated imo
I'm not an expert, but I do know that Little India is in Artesia, which is in the basin on the other side of Long Beach near the Orange County border. Little Bangladesh overlaps with Koreatown near downtown.
I can see how DC might give a different feel than LA, but LA also has many ethnic neighborhoods. Not just streets and restaurants, but actual neighborhoods including: Russian, Thai, Armenian, Japanese, Filipino, Korean, Chinese, Orthodox Jewish, Vietnamese, Cambodian, Bangladeshi, and of course many different Hispanic ones.
Actually LA had quite a few places with 60k + ppsm, not sure if as many as DC but certainly very close. The highest tract in LA is 90k I believe. These areas are heavy rail accessible so I'm not seeing your point... It's definitely not too late.
No LA is far denser than DC on many levels; DC is not as dense as Boston, SF, or Philly - nor Chicago, LA or NYC
That is fact. LA is overall and at its peak much denser than DC. It is however construvcted differently in some ways but is definately more dense
Who is talking about metro area? I'm talking about city proper. In fact, when I reference L.A., I'm only talking about L.A. city proper. American transit numbers are low period compared to European cities outside of NYC because of our infatuation with the car. D.C. is second in the nation though joining NYC as the only two systems that average over 1 million daily subway riders and that is just a fact.
MD why do you insist on discussing Metro in the same breath as NYC
Lets see NYC what like 8-9 million
and Metro 1 Million - yep close
You sound like a fool. Metro is in the same realm as Chicago, Boston, Philly and SF (soon to be LA) and not NYC - stop such nonesense and dont say well they are the only over a million. look at the numbers one is 9 times the size - NOT comparable stop it
Yes it does include the Silver Line. I'm talking about core capacity. The system will not reach capacity. The core will reach capacity. That 1.5 million is for daily riders by the way so APTA's number will be over 2,500,000 daily riders on Metro by 2030. Metro Center, Gallery Place, L' Enfant Plaza etc. ect. can't handle that type of load which is what I mean by core capacity downtown. The streetcars need to give relief. 8 car trains during rush hour in D.C. can be so packed during rush hour you have to wait for the next one sometimes. Just imagine in 20 years.
I have to do it. But ALL this assumes the Govt continues to increase in size and grow the economy and subsidize all this, I dont believe this for a second actually the size of Govt will be quite the issue come this fall
So talk all you want about the future but no I dont see 2.5 million riders in 2020. Metro is a great system BTW but projections are just that and reality is a whole other thing
You are projecting the continuance of the most prosperous 15 years in the DC life span. Nearly all driven by an inprecedented growth in Govt, guess what trends change (And no I am by no means a hater, I am a realist)
Maybe MD2LAFTW and Johnatl can be roommates out in L.A. They both seem to really want to be there based on their posts in this thread. What are you waiting for? Stop complaining and move!
Please, you sound like some kid who has never left the DC area, so you sit around and obsess about how it is supposedly better than big time cities like NYC, LA, Chicago, Boston, San Fran, Atlanta, etc. Here's a little secret: Outside of DC suburban MD and Northern VA, no one really cares about the parasitic little southern towern situated along the Potomac or how many people ride its little choochoo train. This is not Europe, this is America, and the only place where taking the subway is cool is NYC, Boston and maybe Chicago. Most of the rest of the country would rather drive their own vehicles to get around.
Who is talking about metro area? I'm talking about city proper. In fact, when I reference L.A., I'm only talking about L.A. city proper. American transit numbers are low period compared to European cities outside of NYC because of our infatuation with the car. D.C. is second in the nation though joining NYC as the only two systems that average over 1 million daily subway riders and that is just a fact.
D.C. Metro ridership is MUCH closer to Chicago's than it is New York's. New York City has 7.8 million daily riders, that's 6.8 million more daily riders than DC's 1 million. Chicago has 730,000 daily riders, that is only 300,000 less daily riders than DC [Source].
Bottom line, DC and NYC are simply not in the same league in terms of transportation.
Please, you sound like some kid who has never left the DC area, so you sit around and obsess about how it is supposedly better than big time cities like NYC, LA, Chicago, Boston, San Fran, Atlanta, etc. Here's a little secret: Outside of DC suburban MD and Northern VA, no one really cares about the parasitic little southern towern situated along the Potomac or how many people ride its little choochoo train. This is not Europe, this is America, and the only place where taking the subway is cool is NYC, Boston and maybe Chicago. Most of the rest of the country would rather drive their own vehicles to get around.
A new account? LOL
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