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Old 04-13-2011, 10:03 AM
 
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Key word primarily. Caspian, Black and Great Lakes seas are either freshwater or brackish. Wiki defs:

a) a sea that covers a central area of a landmass.

b) A sea generally refers to a large body of salt water, but the term is used in other contexts as well.

c) An inland sea is a shallow sea that covers central areas of continents during periods of high sea level that result in marine transgressions.

Either way they're huge. Larger than some saltwater seas.
a) Correct.

b) Which applies to none of the great lakes, as they are glacial remnants and not inland seas - which as you said, are the result of marine transgression.

c) If it is debated whether the brackish, 143,200 square mile Caspian Sea is indeed a lake or a sea by definition then there is no question that the half-sized 80,545 square mile, fresh water Great Lakes as a whole could even be considered a sea - let alone the individual lakes themselves.

So no, the Great Lakes are not seas.


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Seriously what? Just because you don't agree doesn't mean he's wrong. Lake Minnetonka is a very interesting lake. It's a very large lake for one thing and it's proximity to MPLS and it being in the metro area makes it a very attractive place-to-be. Have you ever experienced Lake Minnetonka? Been on the lake? Been to the bays?

While I'm not too sure how Lake Minnetonka stacks up against other lakes around the country (Why would I, I have 15,000 in my state to worry about), I can say that Lake Minnetonka is a cool lake.

It's size is impressive -
Lake Minnetonka is not large by any standards, even Minnesota's. It's also a very shallow lake. So no, disagreeing doesn't make you "wrong" - but your description of what is at best a medium sized, mini-archipelago as "very large" or "impressive" is reaching. Minnesota may have 15,000 lakes, and from first hand experience many are nice. But few of them are anything to write home about, especially when compared to other lakes in the US.

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Old 04-13-2011, 10:45 AM
 
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Seriously what? Just because you don't agree doesn't mean he's wrong. Lake Minnetonka is a very interesting lake. It's a very large lake for one thing and it's proximity to MPLS and it being in the metro area makes it a very attractive place-to-be. Have you ever experienced Lake Minnetonka? Been on the lake? Been to the bays?

While I'm not too sure how Lake Minnetonka stacks up against other lakes around the country (Why would I, I have 15,000 in my state to worry about), I can say that Lake Minnetonka is a cool lake.

It's size is impressive -




Plus the mansions on the lake are sweet too.

Everytime I hear about Lake Minnetonka I think about the scene in Purple Rain where Apollonia goes skinny dipping... Oh wait, that wasn't Lake Minnetonka.
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Old 04-13-2011, 10:48 AM
 
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I will be a "hometown" booster and support Lake Champlain, on the NY/VT border...

Lake Michigan and Lake Mendota ( Madison, WI) are honorable mentions...
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Old 04-13-2011, 08:19 PM
 
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Fourth Lake, NY
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Old 04-13-2011, 09:24 PM
 
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My top 5

All around best lake --- Lake Champlain.

Great Lakes --- Lake Superior and Lake Michigan
Honorable mentions --- Lake Tahoe and Lake George
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Old 04-14-2011, 08:42 AM
 
Location: MN
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Lake Minnetonka is not large by any standards, even Minnesota's. It's also a very shallow lake. So no, disagreeing doesn't make you "wrong" - but your description of what is at best a medium sized, mini-archipelago as "very large" or "impressive" is reaching. Minnesota may have 15,000 lakes, and from first hand experience many are nice. But few of them are anything to write home about, especially when compared to other lakes in the US.
I was saying for the metro and it's proximity to the downtowns, it's pretty big and impressive of a lake.

In terms of the state of Minnesota, no.
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Old 04-14-2011, 09:53 AM
 
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In terms of practicality, interestingness from scope to field of view to horizon. Lake Tahoe trumps them all. You have snow capped mountains, beaches, waterfalls, pine trees, world class ski resorts, casinos, and even has its own island. All these superlatives including the second deepest lake in the country and 5th deepest average depth in the world. While having one of the cleanest/clearest water for a big lake in the world (top 3.) Plus it never freezes over.

The Great Lakes are great and there are many, many great lakes around the country. But because of the superlatives that I've listed which can only be found in an large Alpine lake, Lake Tahoe is the champ.

It's simply the perfect lake.

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http://www.scenicreflections.com/dow...nia_Wallpaper/

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Old 04-14-2011, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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I know this house . It's pretty near mine.
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Old 04-14-2011, 09:38 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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a) Correct.

b) Which applies to none of the great lakes, as they are glacial remnants and not inland seas - which as you said, are the result of marine transgression.

c) If it is debated whether the brackish, 143,200 square mile Caspian Sea is indeed a lake or a sea by definition then there is no question that the half-sized 80,545 square mile, fresh water Great Lakes as a whole could even be considered a sea - let alone the individual lakes themselves.

So no, the Great Lakes are not seas.




Lake Minnetonka is not large by any standards, even Minnesota's. It's also a very shallow lake. So no, disagreeing doesn't make you "wrong" - but your description of what is at best a medium sized, mini-archipelago as "very large" or "impressive" is reaching. Minnesota may have 15,000 lakes, and from first hand experience many are nice. But few of them are anything to write home about, especially when compared to other lakes in the US.
Others seem to disagree with you. And I'm sure they have more credibility than you. For instance..

Books referring to the Great Lakes as Inland Sea(s)
- Amazon.com: The Great Lakes: North America's Inland Sea (9780872940529): Linda B. Myers: Books
- Amazon.com: The Living Great Lakes: Searching for the Heart of the Inland Seas (9780312251932): Jerry Dennis: Books

Museums
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The Great Lakes Historical Society: Inland Seas&#174 Journal (http://www.inlandseas.org/inlandseas.html - broken link)

Tourism
- Great Lakes Region - Ontario Canada
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http://marvaoguide.com/travel/great-lakes-attractions-and-travel-information/(this (broken link) ones interesting because it said the glaciers left behind inland seas)
Might as well be called Inland Seas
-
Shipping On The Great Lakes

Oh and by the way, there is no doubt that the Caspian is and Inland Sea. Considering it's common name is the Caspian Sea.
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Old 04-14-2011, 09:41 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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a) Correct.

b) Which applies to none of the great lakes, as they are glacial remnants and not inland seas - which as you said, are the result of marine transgression.

c) If it is debated whether the brackish, 143,200 square mile Caspian Sea is indeed a lake or a sea by definition then there is no question that the half-sized 80,545 square mile, fresh water Great Lakes as a whole could even be considered a sea - let alone the individual lakes themselves.

So no, the Great Lakes are not seas.




Lake Minnetonka is not large by any standards, even Minnesota's. It's also a very shallow lake. So no, disagreeing doesn't make you "wrong" - but your description of what is at best a medium sized, mini-archipelago as "very large" or "impressive" is reaching. Minnesota may have 15,000 lakes, and from first hand experience many are nice. But few of them are anything to write home about, especially when compared to other lakes in the US.
Others seem to disagree with you. And I'm sure they have more credibility than you. For instance..

Books referring to the Great Lakes as Inland Sea(s)
- Amazon.com: The Great Lakes: North America's Inland Sea (9780872940529): Linda B. Myers: Books
- Amazon.com: The Living Great Lakes: Searching for the Heart of the Inland Seas (9780312251932): Jerry Dennis: Books

Museums
-
The Great Lakes Historical Society: Inland Seas&#174 Journal (http://www.inlandseas.org/inlandseas.html - broken link)

Tourism
- Great Lakes Region - Ontario Canada
-
http://marvaoguide.com/travel/great-lakes-attractions-and-travel-information/ (http://marvaoguide.com/travel/great-lakes-attractions-and-travel-information/%28this - broken link) (this ones interesting because it said the glaciers left behind inland seas)
Might as well be called Inland Seas
-
Shipping On The Great Lakes

Oh and by the way, there is no doubt that the Caspian is an Inland Sea. Considering it's common name is the Caspian Sea.
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