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Old 01-03-2011, 12:24 AM
 
Location: Canackistan
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Every person claiming "revitalization" and "renewal" in Detroit needs to watch this video.
I'm sorry, but the area is dead. Even the 2010 census said it was the only state to lose population.

there might be pockets of money, yes, but overall the area is done.

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But it still has some dead parts. Not saying that all of Detroit is like this but people don't call it dead for a reason.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6WKMNmFsxM
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Old 01-03-2011, 01:10 AM
 
Location: Detroit's eastside, downtown Detroit in near future!
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Every person claiming "revitalization" and "renewal" in Detroit needs to watch this video.
I'm sorry, but the area is dead. Even the 2010 census said it was the only state to lose population.

there might be pockets of money, yes, but overall the area is done.
lmao idiot I live here. I know what's going on smh. Have you ever been here? smh


do your research before you talk
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Old 01-03-2011, 01:16 AM
 
Location: Detroit's eastside, downtown Detroit in near future!
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yep no "revitalization" going on

List of Projects (just of few for the non-believers smh)

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Old 01-03-2011, 08:40 AM
 
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For a city to be dead it can't be one of the major cities with 100s of thousands of people. It has to be quiet, small, and DEAD and I mean DEAD. Like Brownsville, Pennsylvania: Brownsville, PA: "Ghosts of 'The Neck'"
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Old 01-03-2011, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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More great reviews of Cleveland ...


Cleveland's going up: New projects, pioneers poised to give city a lift: Joe Frolik | cleveland.com
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Old 01-03-2011, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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More about the strengths of Cleveland ...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqLkC...eature=related

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Old 01-03-2011, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Cleveland Suburbs
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Major construction on the mall started today. Construction cranes are going to be everywhere.

I really haven't seen Cleveland mentioned too much in this thread, and really doesn't belong in here, so I hope my post is the last one to mention Cleveland in either negative or a postive light.
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Old 01-04-2011, 12:09 AM
 
Location: Cleveland, OH
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I don't know if it's mentioned yet, but Cairo, Illinois.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJW8lOzJJPE
WOW...looks almost like a Hollywood set.
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Old 01-09-2011, 10:48 PM
 
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I'm not very familiar with Pittsburgh. But, from what I've heard, it sounds like most of Pittsburgh's decline happened in its suburbs, and so the city was mostly spared from the urban decline felt by other rust belt cities.
Like others have said - Pittsburgh population loss figures are a unique situation that leads to an old misconceptions from the Steel Bust days that people are fleeing...where they're not

Pittsburgh's educated labor-force is actually growing quite significantly with a low unemployment rate to boot.

The problem is Pittsburgh because of it being the capital of Steel now as the 2nd highest elderly population in the USA only behind Broward County FL....This elderly population is dying off quicker than the city can gain population (births and inward migration)..now Pittsburgh has been shown to have the higher inward migration but not enought offset the elderly deaths...

But the trend seems to be coming to and end for the Burgh, meaning either the old people have slowed down dying and are living longer, or enough inward migration is taking place to ever so slightly eclipes the deaths....

Hey Google went from a 10 person staff to now planning a workforce of 500 in its Pittsburgh offices...

The Burgh definiently isn't dying....its reinventing
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Old 01-10-2011, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Youngstown, Oh.
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Like others have said - Pittsburgh population loss figures are a unique situation that leads to an old misconceptions from the Steel Bust days that people are fleeing...where they're not

Pittsburgh's educated labor-force is actually growing quite significantly with a low unemployment rate to boot.

The problem is Pittsburgh because of it being the capital of Steel now as the 2nd highest elderly population in the USA only behind Broward County FL....This elderly population is dying off quicker than the city can gain population (births and inward migration)..now Pittsburgh has been shown to have the higher inward migration but not enought offset the elderly deaths...

But the trend seems to be coming to and end for the Burgh, meaning either the old people have slowed down dying and are living longer, or enough inward migration is taking place to ever so slightly eclipes the deaths....

Hey Google went from a 10 person staff to now planning a workforce of 500 in its Pittsburgh offices...

The Burgh definiently isn't dying....its reinventing
I understand what you're saying about population. I don't buy into the concept of "dying" cities at all, anyway. But I was responding to the parts of rranger's post in bold, below.

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Alleghenyangel: I think people who've never been to Pittsburgh simply are not capable of understanding the dynamic. It is truly unique in the US. It has suffered severe population decline (though not as bad as cities like Detroit, Cleveland or St. Louis in sheer numbers). And yet, it really is not - pardon the pun - a "pit".

Pittsburgh has a beautiful, vibrant downtown, relatively low crime rate, and very little of the kind of outright desolation affecting large parts of Detroit, almost the entire northern half of St. Louis and much of the east end of Cleveland. The areas of desolation in Pittsburgh are the same ones that have been affected for decades, namely, the lower Hill District, E. Liberty, Homewood-Brushton, and parts of the North Side.

So, I think it's really hard to convey how unlike the other cities on the list Pittsburgh is unless people have been there. Lots of people still want to live in the city - not just the suburbs.
I was asking if most people preferred to live in the city, because the suburbs saw more of the decline than the city, itself.
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