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Old 01-11-2011, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by JR_C View Post
I understand what you're saying about population. I don't buy into the concept of "dying" cities at all, anyway. But I was responding to the parts of rranger's post in bold, below.

I was asking if most people preferred to live in the city, because the suburbs saw more of the decline than the city, itself.
I don't think Pittsburgh's decline was suburb versus city based in a traditional sense. The entire metro area went into decline for reasons given earlier.

Pittsburgh is unique even in the development of its outlying areas. Not many American cities have steel towns like Ambridge, Aliquippa, Homestead and Clairton surrounding them, and intermingled with suburbs. These towns (and a number of others like New Kensington, McKeesport, etc.) have gone into serious decline (again, discussed ad nauseum).

I'm not sure that the "suburbs" saw any particular decline; rather, the towns interspersed in them did. You really need to visit Pittsburgh to understand what I'm talking about. It's nothing like Boston, for example, where I live.
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Old 01-11-2011, 04:32 PM
Location: South South Jersey
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Yeah, StL City/central StL is in much better shape now than it was 15-20 years ago. While some areas (Central West End, etc.) remained 'hip' even through the worst years, lots more of them Lafayette Square, etc.) are very much gentrified now, with lots of full-time residents.
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