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Old 12-17-2010, 09:40 AM
Status: "Rocktober...well that was fast. :-(" (set 20 days ago)
 
Location: Fredericksburg, VA
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That simply is not correct. The Detroit MSA had a population of 4,441,551 in the 2000 census. The 2009 census estimates have the Detroit MSA's population at 4,403,437--a loss of almost 40,000 since 2000.
I think the OP's intent was to talk about the core city. In this case Detroit, which has declined since 2000 from 951,270 to 910,920 in 2009. It is sad that such a great city and symbol of American industrial greatness has fallen so far. From what I gathered, the city had around 1,850,000 in 1950. But it can be fixed. It will take time, and the city is unlikely ever recover completely the lost population, but it can be fixed.
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Old 12-17-2010, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Denver
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I think you may be taking it too personally. It's just a matter of opinion. Why should you let it bother you if someone else doesn't like Detroit or thinks it's "dead". You've started a great discussion on the matter, but some people will not be convinced, no matter what. Why waste your time worrying about them?
Agreed...but at the same time, I think the OP may be misinterpreting what people say when they say "dead" cities. From what I've seen on the site "dead city" doesn't mean it is 100% devoid of people or activity. It usually refers to a city that has experienced a very heavy decline and is a shadow of its former self, usually due to population loss and loss of industry, etc.

If this is the criteria for a dead city, then Detroit definitely fits the bill. Again, it's not as if there is nothing in the city...but it is not what it once was.
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Old 12-17-2010, 10:47 AM
Status: "Rocktober...well that was fast. :-(" (set 20 days ago)
 
Location: Fredericksburg, VA
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St. Louis seems to fit this description as well. Also peaking in 1950 at 856,000 the city now has only 350,000, but that number was lower a few years ago. So it appears that St. Louis has leveled off and may even be on the upswing. And the city does have a great downtown area, despite a lot of blight immediately outside of downtown.
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Old 12-17-2010, 12:21 PM
 
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How anyone can label a metro of over 4M as "dead" is beyond me.

Sure Detroit has it's problems just like every other metro, but there are several MAJOR projects in the works for Detroit, none of which I believe would be in motion if the city was as irredeemable as some may suggest.
Once one of the most powerful metros in the nation and still one of the largest, Detroit shouldn't be sold short without taking all things into account.
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Old 12-17-2010, 01:02 PM
 
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People love to trash both Cleveland and Detroit ... without having much of a solid base to establish such opinions, since many of those talking "speak blindly" ... leaning on the old "misconceptions" of the media and others. Most people should recognize that Cleveland is no longer a national "punchline" ... that's wayyyyyyyyyy out of style these days.

Cleveland IS a recovering city that is in the midst of an ongoing and an exciting renaissance ... this city offers an excellent quality of life, vast cultural amenities and world renowned healthcare ... and people are beginning to recognize the assets and the strengths of Cleveland.

Despite what Cleveland's many detractors have to say, this city is NOT dead!!!
THERE IS "LIFE" IN CLEVELAND ... AND LOT'S OF IT!

Indeed, Cleveland was just ranked # 10 out of the top 50 cities in America FOR IT'S ECONOMIC RECOVERY & STRENGTH ... and placed 49th GLOBALLY out of 150 cities!
Hmmmmmmm ... maybe not as "DEAD" as people make it out to be.


Greater Cleveland's recovery ranks in top of U.S. metro areas, study says | cleveland.com


You had to have known that Cleveland would HAVE TO PLACE SECOND in this thread, thanks for creating such a great thread ... and "LET THE TRUTH COME OUT" about these "alleged" DEAD CITIES!











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What part of Cleveland is that 2nd photo at? That place looks pretty awesome.
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Old 12-17-2010, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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What part of Cleveland is that 2nd photo at? That place looks pretty awesome.
That is a pedestrian street (E. 4th) downtown with a bunch of bars and restaurants on it. It's near the baseball stadium and basketball arena.
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Old 12-17-2010, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Area, Michigan
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Detroit's midtown along the Woodward corridor has many new buildings as well in the new center area.

Tons and tons of older buildings are also being converted into newer lofts/condos.

New home construction is also springing up around the city.








Another newer subdivision : detroit - Google Maps
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Old 12-17-2010, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Orlandooooooo
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Wow I think Dead means as far as HYPE. Not saying that the city is uninhabitable or not worth living in. Sometimes you people especially in non hyped cities take things a lil more personal than people intend.
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Old 12-19-2010, 05:50 PM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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Detroit's midtown along the Woodward corridor has many new buildings as well in the new center area.

Tons and tons of older buildings are also being converted into newer lofts/condos.

New home construction is also springing up around the city.








Another newer subdivision : detroit - Google Maps
The only thing missing there is the tumbleweed.
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Old 12-19-2010, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Detroit's eastside, downtown Detroit in near future!
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Agreed...but at the same time, I think the OP may be misinterpreting what people say when they say "dead" cities. From what I've seen on the site "dead city" doesn't mean it is 100% devoid of people or activity. It usually refers to a city that has experienced a very heavy decline and is a shadow of its former self, usually due to population loss and loss of industry, etc.

If this is the criteria for a dead city, then Detroit definitely fits the bill. Again, it's not as if there is nothing in the city...but it is not what it once was.
um no the OP did not misinterpret anything. The fact that anyone can even call a city "dead" is beyond me. Decling and dead are two different things
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