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Old 12-18-2010, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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This is all as of June 2006. Keep in mind not 2010.

First I will list the Top 20 in terms of Employment Population. And then I will list the Top 20 in terms of Land Area of the Central Business District. And then I will list the population density of the Central Business Districts.

Also keep in mind that some of the places where the Twin City rules apply have a combined Central Business District. Like they take the Downtown for Minneapolis and combine it with the Downtown for Saint Paul. Same for Dallas & Fort Worth. San Jose, Oakland, & San Francisco as well. They take all the Downtowns (CBD's) in an urban area and put them together. So no, these lists only include CBD's not other business districts like Midtowns, or Buckhead, or TMC and the likes.

And after I post that I will post the transit ridership in the CBD's and other information also for the Top 20.

Top 20 Largest Central Business Districts by Employment Population:
01. New York City: 1,736,900
02. Chicago: 541,500
03. Washington DC: 382,400
04. Bay Area: 305,600
05. Boston: 257,000
06. Philadelphia: 220,100
07. Seattle: 155,100
08. Houston: 153,400
09. Los Angeles: 143,700
10. Atlanta: 129,800
11. Denver: 126,000
12. Minneapolis-Saint Paul: 105,400
13. Cleveland: 100,300
14. Baltimore: 98,500
15. Miami: 98,000
16. Pittsburgh: 95,600
17. Columbus: 88,800
18. Austin: 86,000
19. New Orleans: 81,400
20. Dallas-Fort Worth: 79,900

Keep in mind for Metropolitan Areas that are Poly-Nodal like Minneapolis-Saint Paul, Bay Area, & Dallas-Fort Worth, this information is Downtown Minneapolis + Downtown Saint Paul, Downtown Dallas + Downtown Fort Worth, Downtown Oakland + Downtown San Jose + Downtown San Francisco.

Top 20 Largest Central Business Districts by Land Area:
01. New York City: 7.82 Square Miles
02. Chicago: 3.36 Square Miles
03. Miami: 2.91 Square Miles
04. Columbus: 2.47 Square Miles
05. Bay Area: 2.34 Square Miles
06. Washington DC: 2.30 Square Miles
07. Atlanta: 2.17 Square Miles
08. Philadelphia: 1.71 Square Miles
09. Austin: 1.59 Square Miles
10. Cleveland: 1.54 Square Miles
11. Houston: 1.53 Square Miles (Tie with Denver)
12. Denver: 1.53 Square Miles (Tie with Houston)
13. Seattle: 1.48 Square Miles
14. Los Angeles: 1.25 Square Miles
15. Boston: 1.23 Square Miles
16. Baltimore: 1.09 Square Miles
17. New Orleans: 1.06 Square Miles
18. Minneapolis-Saint Paul: 0.72 Square Miles
19. Dallas-Fort Worth: 0.67 Square Miles
20. Pittsburgh: 0.66 Square Miles

Top 20 Largest Central Business Districts by Population Density:
01. New York City: 222,100 Per Square Mile
02. Boston: 208,900 Per Square Mile
03. Washington DC: 166,300 Per Square Mile
04. Chicago: 161,200 Per Square Mile
05. Minneapolis-Saint Paul: 146,400 Per Square Mile
06. Pittsburgh: 144,800 Per Square Mile
07. Bay Area: 130,600 Per Square Mile
08. Philadelphia: 128,700 Per Square Mile
09. Dallas-Fort Worth: 119,300 Per Square Mile
10. Los Angeles: 115,000 Per Square Mile
11. Seattle: 104,800 Per Square Mile
12. Houston: 100,300 Per Square Mile
13. Baltimore: 90,400 Per Square Mile
14. Denver: 82,400 Per Square Mile
15. New Orleans: 76,800 Per Square Mile
16. Cleveland: 65,100 Per Square Mile
17. Atlanta: 59,800 Per Square Mile
18. Austin: 54,100 Per Square Mile
19. Columbus: 36,000 Per Square Mile
20. Miami: 33,700 Per Square Mile

Percentage of Total Metropolitan Area Employment Working in Downtown:
01. New York City: 20.1%
02. New Orleans: 19.0%
03. Washington DC: 18.7%
04. Austin: 17.7%
05. Hartford: 15.4%
06. Columbus: 15.2%
07. Richmond: 15.1%
08. Honolulu: 15.1%
09. Chicago: 14.3%
10. Charlotte: 13.4%
11. Louisville: 12.5%
12. Nashville: 12.4%
13. Bay Area: 12.2%
14. Denver: 12.2%
15. Cleveland: 12.2%
16. Pittsburgh: 12.0%
17. Jacksonville: 12.0%
18. Seattle: 11.3%
19. Boston: 11.1%
20. Sacramento: 10.5%
21. Rochester: 10.5%
22. Milwaukee: 10.3%
23. Cincinnati: 10.2%
24. Baltimore: 10.0%
25. Portland: 10.0%
26. Salt Lake City: 09.9%
27. Indianapolis: 09.5%
28. San Antonio: 09.5%
29. Philadelphia: 09.4%
30. Houston: 08.9%
31. Minneapolis-Saint Paul: 08.2%
32. Dayton: 07.9%
33. Orlando: 07.4%
34. Saint Louis: 07.4%
35. Atlanta: 07.3%
36. Kansas City: 06.9%
37. Buffalo: 06.7%
38. Las Vegas: 05.1%
39. San Diego: 05.0%
40. Miami: 04.7%
41. Oklahoma City: 04.7%
42. Detroit: 04.5%
43. Providence: 04.4%
44. Memphis: 04.2%
45. Dallas-Fort Worth: 04.0%
46. Virginia Beach: 03.8%
47. Tampa-Saint Petersburg: 03.8%
48. Tucson: 03.0%
49. Los Angeles: 02.5%
50. Phoenix: 02.0%

Top 20 Percentage/Number of Downtown Workforce Population Using Mass Transit Rail Lines:
01. New York City: 1,283,400 Transit Commuters (73.9%)
02. Chicago: 299,600 Transit Commuters (55.3%)
03. Boston: 133,600 Transit Commuters (52.0%)
04. Bay Area: 151,400 Transit Commuters (49.5%)
05. Philadelphia: 102,000 Transit Commuters (46.4%)
06. Washington DC: 145,700 Transit Commuters (38.1%)
07. Seattle: 54,100 Transit Commuters (34.9%)
08. Pittsburgh: 31,300 Transit Commuters (32.8%)
09. Minneapolis-Saint Paul: 31,700 Transit Commuters (30.0%)
10. Portland: 23,700 Transit Commuters (29.8%)
11. Denver: 26,800 Transit Commuters (21.3%)
12. Baltimore: 19,500 Transit Commuters (19.8%)
13. Los Angeles: 28,100 Transit Commuters (19.6%)
14. Cleveland: 19,100 Transit Commuters (19.0%)
15. Houston: 25,700 Transit Commuters (16.8%)
16. Cincinnati: 12,300 Transit Commuters (16.6%)
17. Honolulu: 8,100 Transit Commuters (15.9%)
18. Atlanta: 18,600 Transit Commuters (14.4%)
19. Dallas-Fort Worth: 11,400 Transit Commuters (14.3%)
20. New Orleans: 10,200 Transit Commuters (12.6%)

Source: http://www.demographia.com/db-cbd2000.pdf
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Old 12-18-2010, 12:59 PM
 
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Washington DC has the 3rd highest downtown population density? That's surprisingly high.
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Old 12-18-2010, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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Washington DC has the 3rd highest downtown population density? That's surprisingly high.
Yeah. They also have a higher share of percentage of employment in their Downtown than most other places and their employment workforce is the 3rd largest after only New York City & Chicago.
Their land area is moderate too, so the density is sustainable with the given land area and its actually quite high due to that reason.

But another factor that this source didn't include was the residential population in the respective downtowns. It was mostly an employment data sheet report.
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Old 12-18-2010, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Up on the moon laughing down on you
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wow, this proves my point that certain metros are too polynodal. Some huge metros have really small central business districts, while smaller cities like Austin have bigger CBD's.
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Old 12-18-2010, 01:19 PM
 
Location: The City
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Some additional info on downtown sizes based on residents living there, would be interesting to tie these together

From Brookings institute, a little dated (2005 analysis based on 2000 data)

http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/Fil...1115_Birch.pdf

"The “Fully-Developed Downtowns” are relatively large (averaging 43,623 households) and densely settled (averaging 23 households per. In fact, while there are only five “Fully Developed Downtowns”—Boston, Midtown Manhattan, Lower Manhattan, Chicago, and Philadelphia—they are home to almost half of the nation’s downtown households."
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Old 12-18-2010, 01:26 PM
 
Location: The City
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Some additional info on downtown sizes based on residents living there, would be interesting to tie these together

From Brookings institute, a little dated (2005 analysis based on 2000 data)

http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/Fil...1115_Birch.pdf

"The “Fully-Developed Downtowns” are relatively large (averaging 43,623 households) and densely settled (averaging 23 households per. In fact, while there are only five “Fully Developed Downtowns”—Boston, Midtown Manhattan, Lower Manhattan, Chicago, and Philadelphia—they are home to almost half of the nation’s downtown households."

This is my favorite quote from analysis on downtowns

Density Choices
Density matters. In general, the evidence
suggests that there is a relationship
between density and the ability to
attract downtown residents. While a
city with a substantial amount of
vacant or underutilized land might be
tempted to allow low-density residential
construction—in order to encourage
any investment at all—this would
likely be a mistake. Producing lowdensity
suburban models squanders
the market advantages of centrally
located real estate that many downtown
dwellers value—namely accessibility
to jobs, walkability, and an urban
quality of life—and limits the ability to
support the very services, facilities,
and amenities that determine downtown
character.
addition, low-density
development underutilizes existing
infrastructure, including streets, water, parks, and transit systems.

Last edited by kidphilly; 12-18-2010 at 01:35 PM..
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Old 12-18-2010, 01:48 PM
 
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Cool list, S.A. has close to 76,000 workers in the CBD as of 2006 so not to far from making the top 20.
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Old 12-18-2010, 01:52 PM
 
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this is a cool metric

Top 20 Percentage/Number of Downtown Workforce Population Using Mass Transit Rail Lines:
01. New York City: 1,283,400 Transit Commuters (73.9%)
02. Chicago: 299,600 Transit Commuters (55.3%)
03. Boston: 133,600 Transit Commuters (52.0%)
04. Bay Area: 151,400 Transit Commuters (49.5%)
05. Philadelphia: 102,000 Transit Commuters (46.4%)
06. Washington DC: 145,700 Transit Commuters (38.1%)
07. Seattle: 54,100 Transit Commuters (34.9%)
08. Pittsburgh: 31,300 Transit Commuters (32.8%)
09. Minneapolis-Saint Paul: 31,700 Transit Commuters (30.0%)
10. Portland: 23,700 Transit Commuters (29.8%)
11. Denver: 26,800 Transit Commuters (21.3%)
12. Baltimore: 19,500 Transit Commuters (19.8%)
13. Los Angeles: 28,100 Transit Commuters (19.6%)
14. Cleveland: 19,100 Transit Commuters (19.0%)
15. Houston: 25,700 Transit Commuters (16.8%)
16. Cincinnati: 12,300 Transit Commuters (16.6%)
17. Honolulu: 8,100 Transit Commuters (15.9%)
18. Atlanta: 18,600 Transit Commuters (14.4%)
19. Dallas-Fort Worth: 11,400 Transit Commuters (14.3%)
20. New Orleans: 10,200 Transit Commuters (12.6%)

i like it better than say # of ridership # of lines or anything like that.
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Old 12-18-2010, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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i like it better than say # of ridership # of lines or anything like that.
Yeah it shows in what cities public transit (Rail Lines) are most utilized for their cores and which ones aren't and can improve for the better. I like it too.

kidphilly, thank you for adding in the residential part, the thread is nearly complete now. I am just going to add a bit more for public parks and stuff like that and then I can call it a thread well done.
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Old 12-18-2010, 04:48 PM
 
Location: BMORE!
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Im impressed with baltimore
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