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View Poll Results: most urban?
SF 142 32.72%
LA 64 14.75%
DC 40 9.22%
Philly 122 28.11%
Boston 66 15.21%
Voters: 434. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-04-2012, 08:02 PM
 
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Last time I checked Philly gained population. Once again, you have no idea what you are talking about.
Not only did the city proper grew, but the metro grew at a greater percentage from 2000-2010 than LA
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Old 02-04-2012, 08:48 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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Not only did the city proper grew, but the metro grew at a greater percentage from 2000-2010 than LA
Philly reversed the trend, I stand corrected. It was stupid trash talk on my part anyway...
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Old 02-04-2012, 10:42 PM
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Location: In the heights
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and to his point - urban = walking to your destination w/o getting run over by traffic.
possible depending on where you live and work. definitely know people who are or basically live carless existences in various parts of the city (mostly around downtown, the westside, long beach or pasadena-ish)
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Old 02-04-2012, 10:55 PM
 
Location: Arroyo Grande, California
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Last time I checked Philly gained population. Once again, you have no idea what you are talking about.
**not sure I'd brag about that....

Philly
1960 2,002,512 −3.3%
1970 1,948,609 −2.7%
1980 1,688,210 −13.4%
1990 1,585,577 −6.1%
2000 1,517,550 −4.3%
2010 1,526,006 +0.6%
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Old 02-04-2012, 11:03 PM
 
Location: Arroyo Grande, California
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Not only did the city proper grew, but the metro grew at a greater percentage from 2000-2010 than LA

The truth:


The city grew 0.6%
The metro grew in percentage 1pt more than LA's msa, raw numbers LA kills..

2 Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana, CA MSA 12,828,837 12,365,627 +3.75%

5 Philadelphia-Camden-Wilmington, PA-NJ-DE-MD MSA 5,965,343 5,687,147 +4.89%

When you go to the csa level, not so much:

8 Philadelphia-Camden-Vineland, PA-NJ-DE-MD CSA 6,533,683 6,207,223 +5.26%
2 Los Angeles-Long Beach-Riverside, CA CSA 17,877,006 16,373,645 +9.18%
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Old 02-04-2012, 11:27 PM
 
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Philly reversed the trend, I stand corrected . It was stupid trash talk on my part anyway...
You said "losing" so you are in fact wrong .
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Old 02-04-2012, 11:34 PM
 
Location: Vineland, NJ area
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**not sure I'd brag about that....

Philly
1960 2,002,512 −3.3%
1970 1,948,609 −2.7%
1980 1,688,210 −13.4%
1990 1,585,577 −6.1%
2000 1,517,550 −4.3%
2010 1,526,006 +0.6%
For a city that has had population decline since 1950 I think that is something to brag about. You have to understand that Philly's city limits are small compared to Los Angeles and if Philly had about same city limits as Los Angeles, Philly would have a population of almost 3 million people(almost as large as Los Angeles 3.7 million).

The Philly area is a lot larger than what most people give it credit for.
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Old 02-04-2012, 11:44 PM
 
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Cool vibrant areas of Downtown Los Angeles(Santee Alley):

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Old 02-04-2012, 11:47 PM
 
Location: Vineland, NJ area
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So it breaks down like this. At 50 sq miles surrounding their CBDs, everyone(minus D.C.) is almost even in density. L.A. might actually have a slight edge, but pretty close, all of them. At 100 miles, it's safe to say L.A. is ahead. At 150, no question.
LA does not have a higher density than Philly over 100 miles. I don't think LA has a higher density than Philly over 60 or 70 miles. Maybe between 15 and 50 miles LA might have a slight edge but other than that Philly in general has a higher density level than Los Angeles.
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Old 02-04-2012, 11:50 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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If LA is so great, btw, why can't it just remain as is? Why is there this urgency to radically change the design of the city (road diets, mixed use, etc.).
L.A. is going back to its roots, so to speak. The Pacific Electric red cars built SoCal - not the freeways. This embracing of transit is a great thing, imo.
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