How big of a deal is political correctness in "blue" areas, should I watch my mouth? (living, compared)

[Chicago60614]

Originally Posted by Stars&StripesForever

I think that one should date and marry someone within their own group. I take it that honor, heritage, culture, and race, and its continuation within your family mean nothing. Oh well. You're free to date who you want. I simply find your belief system a loss for your family.

There are plenty of pretty girls within your own race that you can be interested in. People like animals, it doesn't mean that you should date one. The same can be said for individuals outside of your group. While you may be attracted to some, it doesn't make it right, or ideal.

Oh my god! You sound EXACTLY like my Jewish friend Ben's 60 year old mom when she keeps harassing him for not being married (to a jewish girl) because he's 34 years old. We always laugh at her - it sounds so stereotypical.

[Deezus]

Originally Posted by Stars&StripesForever

So you feel more connection with a latino gang banger in the LA area than you would with a well-respected family man who is a southerner? Right. .

I didn't grow up near Southern California and have never really been there much, so your question is really moot. But I did grow up with educated middle-class or working class people of white or Hispanic or Asian ethnicity who I'd probably have more in common with than someone from the South. Especially considering I'm a liberal moderate who hates SEC football, NASCAR, and country music... But I really don't have any interest in dating either a Latino gangbanger or Southern family man, sorry...

I don't find a problem with people of various European ancestries marrying one another. There is a problem, IN MY OPINION, when people ruin their racial heritage by marrying outside their race. It strikes me as odd, totally against nature.

So where do you draw the line...Racial classifcations are pretty much junk science which basically come down to dividing people by skin color. I guess technically since my girlfriend looks about as white as I am, you'd supposedly approve? Besides, racial heritage? My ancestors identified as Irish, Poles, Navajo, Powhatan, Scots, Germans, Jews, etc... Most of us wouldn't have been considered white until relatively recently in our family history.

As far as being against nature? Well, it's been going on for thousands of years...one tribe invades another tribe's territory, different people of different ethnicities mix in cosmopolitan trading ports...that's how we've ended up with so many different ethnicities on this planet. So as far as being against nature,that's BS, it's completely human nature.

Of course it's not bestiality. I was making the analogy of not dating things because you like them, when such isn't exactly the right thing to do.

You haven't proven anything regarding the supposed morality of the situation, besides your own opinion.

[Stars&StripesForever]

Originally Posted by Deezus

I didn't grow up near Southern California and have never really been there much, so your question is really moot. But I did grow up with educated middle-class or working class people of white or Hispanic or Asian ethnicity who I'd probably have more in common with than someone from the South. Especially considering I'm a liberal moderate who hates SEC football, NASCAR, and country music... But I really don't have any interest in dating either a Latino gangbanger or Southern family man, sorry...

Do you honestly think that even a majority of southerners are into NASCAR and auto racing? Maybe ten percent, if that. Probably like five percent. A good percentage like country music, but so do people in other regions. People in other regions like the football of their conference, so I don't see much of a difference between the regions in this regard.

Do you honestly think that a southern family man is any different than a family man from another region? Not much at all.

I find it odd that you'd say that you couldn't find something in common with someone from the South, as though all are the same, or there's a common theme that is so different from you. You've been watching too much anti-South Hollywood media, which is about as far away from reality as possible.

So where do you draw the line...Racial classifcations are pretty much junk science which basically come down to dividing people by skin color. I guess technically since my girlfriend looks about as white as I am, you'd supposedly approve? Besides, racial heritage? My ancestors identified as Irish, Poles, Native Americans, Scots, Germans, Jews, etc... We wouldn't have been considered white until relatively recently in our family history.

Why do you call it junk science? Scientists have unlocked genetic commonalities within the DNA of each race relative to other races. It's far from junk, it's reality. You can't tell me that you don't notice the differences, otherwise I'd argue that you'd have to be one of the most blind persons on the planet.

As far as being against nature? Well, it's been going on for thousands of years...one tribe invades another tribe's territory, different people of different ethnicities mix in cosmopolitan trading ports...that's how we've ended up with so many different ethnicities on this planet. So as far as being against nature,that's BS, it's completely human nature.

Simply because a small group, relative to the total number, have chosen to race mix doesn't make it right.

Are you telling me that you'd rather have a child who looks NOTHING like you, considering that Caucasian genes are generally recessive. Haven't you seen the Kate Gosselin kids? They all look Asian, yet they have a Caucasian mother. Have you seen bi-racial white-black kids? They generally look much more black than white, and they'll identify with such. IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT? If so, then do your own thing, likely upsetting family. You can tout yourself as "enlightened" or "tolerant", or whatever, but when you're older, you'll likely look back with regret and think, "why didn't I marry within my race". I don't want to see you come to regret such a thing.

You haven't proven anything regarding the supposed morality of the situation, besides your own opinion.

That's why I said, "In My Opinion". However, I would argue that ending one's racial heritage is tantamount to a slap in the face to your ancestors.

[Thomas R.]

Originally Posted by Stars&StripesForever

What about your family's history, bloodline, etc.? Are you comfortable with being known for taking a white family line and turning it into one that is multi-racial, all so you could be seen as "accepting" and "tolerant", and "not pc". Sounds rather ludicrous to me.

I don't think I would date or marry a non-white woman just to say I'm dating or marrying a non-white woman. Or I'd like to think I wouldn't. However if a non-white woman came along who shared my values, was kind, and really grabbed my heart I don't see why her non-whiteness would be a factor.

I would traditionally have a problem dating or marrying a non-Catholic. I have siblings who've done it, with the eldest being in a happy marriage, but it seems like you end up having to compromise your values in ways I'd dislike. This is part of why I've never been much into relationships at all, they all seem to involve complications or compromises I wouldn't be willing to do.

[Thomas R.]

Originally Posted by Stars&StripesForever

I think that one should date and marry someone within their own group. I take it that honor, heritage, culture, and race, and its continuation within your family mean nothing. Oh well. You're free to date who you want. I simply find your belief system a loss for your family.

There are plenty of pretty girls within your own race that you can be interested in. People like animals, it doesn't mean that you should date one. The same can be said for individuals outside of your group. While you may be attracted to some, it doesn't make it right, or ideal.

That's pretty hardcore. Also I don't think many of us come from a family that's like the Dukes of Lincolnshire or something. I was not raised in old Belgian or English ways. My liking of old-time Appalachian and Ozark music is not shared by my NW Arkansas Dad who liked Exotica and Californian Folkies as a young man. (There were English-descended people who settled in Arkansas and Kentucky, although my Dad does have some Scottish ancestry)

The values of my family could continue fine if I married a conservative Vietnamese or African Catholic. (Switched as you apparently just mean race and Hispanics can be "white.") In fact I think they would continue much better that way than if I married some Leftist Unitarian of English/Belgian ancestry.

[Deezus]

Originally Posted by Stars&StripesForever

I find it odd that you'd say that you couldn't find something in common with someone from the South, as though all are the same, or there's a common theme that is so different from you. You've been watching too much anti-South Hollywood media, which is about as far away from reality as possible.

Whatever, I have friends originally from the South and even a few family members in the region...Sure you can have things in common with anyone, yet why would I have more in common with someone 1000 miles away who grew up in a different region than from someone who grew up down the street from me and went to the same school as me and similar experiences growing up, but who just happened to be of Asian descent...

Simply because a small group, relative to the total number, have chosen to race mix doesn't make it right.

Except for say, if you look historically at most of the population of Brazil and much of the rest of Latin America, the Balkans, India, the Phillipines, etc, it's not really such a small group... Yeah, why are Southern Italians so much darker than Northern Italians. Even most blacks in the US have white ancestors somewhere along their bloodlines. Historically it's nothing new...

Are you telling me that you'd rather have a child who looks NOTHING like you, considering that Caucasian genes are generally recessive.

If I had children with a tall blond, Scandanavian woman I'd possibly have children that looked absolutely nothing like me as well...

Haven't you seen the Kate Gosselin kids? They all look Asian, yet they have a Caucasian mother.

I have no idea who that is...

Have you seen bi-racial white-black kids? They generally look much more black than white, and they'll identify with such.

I have friends that are a white/black couple and the children look more caucasian. They seem to identify with being loved and cared for human beings in a good family...

IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT? If so, then do your own thing, likely upsetting family.

You don't know my family, and no they wouldn't care if that was my choice in the future.

You can tout yourself as "enlightened" or "tolerant", or whatever, but when you're older, you'll likely look back with regret and think, "why didn't I marry within my race". I don't want to see you come to regret such a thing.

That's why I said, "In My Opinion". However, I would argue that ending one's racial heritage is tantamount to a slap in the face to your ancestors.

Like I said, my ethnic heritage seems to be a pretty mixed bag as it is...so my ancestors might have already been guilty of miscegenation in your book. Personally I don't care if people don't feel comfortable dating or marrying outside their own cultural group--that's your own call. However, this is America in the 21st Century, sorry if we're going to run afoul of your racial purity laws...

[soug]

This thread is hilarious, keep it coming.

[jgamibi]

Originally Posted by CubanfromMiami

Why wouldn't you say that you will never date someone outside your race? That's really limiting your options. You might be generally more attracted to your own race, but to say that you will never even consider having a relationship with someone outside your race? You can't choose who you fall in love with.

Honestly sometimes it is culture. Like us Indians we marry inside our own race because we can understand other Indians better and I used to be the guy who would only look for Indian girls because in my mind I would always think that only an Indian girl can truly love an Indian guy, if any other type of woman loves him it must be for the money (of course that was back early on in high school).

Interracial dating is a beautiful thing but I wanna ask people this, and honestly answer if you can, this is for GUYS ONLY.

You guys who date interracial, how would you react if a guy dated interracial with a woman from your race? I met tons of Hispanic dudes who have tried to hit on and flirt with Indian girls and girls from all backgrounds, some have even dated girls from different backgrounds but as soon as a guy like me gets with a Latina those SAME HISPANIC DUDES wanna throw nanny fits and tell me that I am not a part of their "culture".

I mean jeez so it is okay for you to date women from my background but if I date a Latina you wanna act all childish about it?

Black guys do it too, I mean a Black guy dates a White girl, life is good, then he sees a White guy with a pretty looking Black woman and all hell breaks loose.

Same with White guys, the ones who date Asian girls, those same White guys stare at Asian men who get with White girls.

Personally I believe interracial relationships are inevitable and have been the norm since the start of society but that is something I have noticed.

[Thomas R.]

I really don't date period, but if my little sister dated a black guy I think my only worry would be how my Dad would react. Well also, and obviously, who the black guy is as a person matters a lot. If he was sensible, honest, virtuous, and educated it'd be better than what my other sisters have done. If he was a foul-mouthed radical who hated my religion, my family, and me I wouldn't care for it at all. Considering the demographics if she dated a black guy he'd probably be a Democrat, which would be fine for her but I think could be problematic for the family unless he was like "Blue Dog Democratic."

Still I admit I might be a bit protective with my little sister, but I don't think that's a racial thing. If she went with the kind of dishonest ex-convict white guys my older sister M tended to date I would be pretty unhappy. I guess I do want her to do better than many of us have. My little sister is somewhat liberal so I'd accept she'd marry a liberal, just as long as he's tolerant of us and as smart as her. (Although if he were strongly for euthanasia and abortion I'd have a problem with that even if he's perfectly nice to other views) Also I think I'd like it if he was a bit less harsh or greedy than my other sisters' husband.

[tmac9wr]

Originally Posted by Stars&StripesForever

Do you honestly think that even a majority of southerners are into NASCAR and auto racing? Maybe ten percent, if that. Probably like five percent.

No, it's definitely more than that...

A good percentage like country music, but so do people in other regions. People in other regions like the football of their conference, so I don't see much of a difference between the regions in this regard.

I find it funny that to you, every Latin from SoCal is a gang-banger...but HOW DARE someone suggest all Southerners like NASCAR, country music or college football. You're sounding worse and worse (and more ignorant) with every post.

Do you honestly think that a southern family man is any different than a family man from another region? Not much at all.

Hmmmm...maybe they are, maybe they aren't. From my experience they're a bit different though in the end, we all bear similarities to one another. But Blacks, Latins, Asians, Indians are all much different...right?