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Old 01-01-2011, 10:35 AM
 
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The population of the United States has increased steadily by roughly 2.5 million people every year since World War II...............There are some cities, however, that have experienced such severe hardship and decline that their populations have actually decreased significantly

http://finance.yahoo.com/family-home...-out-of-people

1. New Orleans
Population: 354,850
Population Change 2000-2009: -128,813
Population Percent Change 2000-2009: -26.63%
Home Vacancy: 21.5%
2. Flint, Mich.
Population: 111,475
Population Change 2000-2009: -13,266
Population Percent Change 2000-2009: -10.63%
Home Vacancy: 18%
3. Cleveland
Population: 431,369
Population Change 2000-2009: -45,205
Population Percent Change 2000-2009: -9.49%
Home Vacancy: 17.5%
4. Buffalo, N.Y.
Population: 270,240
Population Change 2000-2009: -21,970
Population Percent Change 2000-2009: -7.52%
Home Vacancy: 17.2%
5. Dayton, Ohio
Population: 153,843
Population Change 2000-2009: -11,961
Population Percent Change 2000-2009: -7.21%
Home Vacancy: 18.9%
6. Pittsburgh
Population: 311,647
Population Change 2000-2009: -22,056
Population Percent Change 2000-2009: -6.61%
Home Vacancy: 14.1%
7. Rochester, N.Y.
Population: 207,294
Population Change 2000-2009: -12,180
Population Percent Change 2000-2009: -5.55%
Home Vacancy: 15.3%
http://finance.yahoo.com/family-home...-out-of-people

These figures are for cities and not metros so in some cases they are misleading.

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Old 01-01-2011, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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CLEVELAND has shed a sizable level of population in the last decade, something that is common amongst many midwestern cities that include Chicago, Detroit and St. Louis.
Now, the city and metro populations have shown signs of stabilization ... indeed, a large portion of CLEVELAND'S population exodus was dispersed in it's vast and far flung surrounding suburbs, something that many people tend to overlook.
This city isn't "running out of people", but certainly it is a city with a significantly smaller population ... not entirely a bad thing, depending on how one "chooses to look at it".
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Old 01-01-2011, 12:44 PM
 
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New Orleans....Katrina. No comment.

Flint, NY is a dump.

Cleveland, Dayton also irrelevant dead end freezing rust belt cities so no surprise. I've been to Dayton and imo, the city has no redeeming qualities whatsoever.

New York really needs to split into "New York' and "South New York" or North New York and New York or something, because from what I've read Upstate and Downstate seem like they're on different planets. Upstate drags Downstate down tremendously fiscally and population growth wise. Upstate NY is gorgeous but has a very old dying population and very low birth rates compared to the United States which is about 3X higher.
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Old 01-01-2011, 01:38 PM
 
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New Orleans....Katrina. No comment.

Flint, NY is a dump.

Cleveland, Dayton also irrelevant dead end freezing rust belt cities so no surprise. I've been to Dayton and imo, the city has no redeeming qualities whatsoever.

New York really needs to split into "New York' and "South New York" or North New York and New York or something, because from what I've read Upstate and Downstate seem like they're on different planets. Upstate drags Downstate down tremendously fiscally and population growth wise. Upstate NY is gorgeous but has a very old dying population and very low birth rates compared to the United States which is about 3X higher.
Agreed on Katrina and New Orleans. 2010 - 2020 will be more telling.

I agree that Downstate and Upstate/Western NY are different, but to say that downstate is being dragged down by upstate/WNY is not really true. Maybe in terms of population loss, but I would argue that downstate gets the political focus and is a large reason for high taxes, which hurts upstate/WNY.

I think that Upstate and WNY will turn around at some point. They have good things going for them, and at least Rochester's MSA is stable. They just need to resize due to the major reduction in manufacturing jobs.
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Old 01-01-2011, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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Default Cleveland, irrelevant? Think again ...

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Cleveland, Dayton also irrelevant dead end freezing rust belt cities so no surprise. I've been to Dayton and imo, the city has no redeeming qualities whatsoever.
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CLEVELAND, irrelevant? Think again, buddy ... I'm not certain what realm you're living in, but a city that has the amenities, the history and now BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN NEW CONSTRUCTION is far from being "irrelevant" on a very grand scale.

Cleveland may be "irrelevant" to you, but it remains a vital and sustainable American metropolis.

You don't have to like Cleveland, but at least recognize that it is a city that defies the ongoing barrage of misinformation, as well as those antiquated and old punchlines ... that's out of touch and NOT the Cleveland of today.


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Old 01-01-2011, 03:24 PM
 
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With the exception of New Orleans, all of these cities were thriving manufacturing centers through 3/4ths of the 20th century. There are big black holes in their economies that have yet to be filled. Not sure when/if they will be.
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Old 01-01-2011, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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With the exception of New Orleans, all of these cities were thriving manufacturing centers through 3/4ths of the 20th century. There are big black holes in their economies that have yet to be filled. Not sure when/if they will be.

It's been a very long time coming, but CLEVELAND has already begun a major shift / transition away from heavy manufacturing and is now
a WORLD WIDE DESTINATION for our advanced and RENOWNED healthcare ... offering both the prestigious Cleveland Clinic Foundation and University Hospitals of Cleveland / Case Medical Centre.

Now, the brand new Cleveland Medical Mart & Convention Centre is breaking ground this month, further strengthening and advancing
Cleveland's position as a burgeoning mecca for healthcare and related arts.

More tourism dollars are coming, too ... with a brand new CASINO that will be constructed downtown, in addition to a brand new AQUARIUM in the revered 'flats district' of downtown.

There are BILLIONS being spent that are all part of a much larger picture of Cleveland's BRIGHT future ...

People are 'rediscovering Cleveland'
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Old 01-01-2011, 06:15 PM
 
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I am not allowed to print the whole Yahoo article but go back and read it. It explains New Orleans and also the reasons behind the other declines. Also like johndbaumgardner said, if population is simply shifting to the suburbs of the same city then it isn't really a decline.
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Old 01-01-2011, 06:16 PM
 
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What about Detroit?
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Old 01-01-2011, 11:15 PM
 
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What about Detroit?
Good question. I don't know how/why they missed it. Is it still shrinking?
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