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07-23-2007, 09:48 PM
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milquetoast, you've mentioned this post-911 promotional whoring a few times now. I don't understand what you mean. Could you elaborate or provide examples?
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07-23-2007, 10:39 PM
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Oh, God! How can I mention examples of what has appeared in print media and broadcast media and even in the empathetic boost in movie production since 9/11? I watched that day, had a front row seat with my big-screen. Not exactly like being there and dying, or knowing someone who had died, but I felt like a New Yorker that day. And at the risk of having this post deleted for being too personal or emotional and not pertaining to the thread, I'm going to answer your question. The media based in New York fed on that day, and, the print media mostly, gave itself a green light to list and compare in a rather passive-aggressive way, the overall standing of the city itself. In comparison to the rest of the country, of course. There has to be some motive for New York, this is the driving force behind its being. It thrives on it, but after a time of peril, to literally bark at everyone of its grandeur and, with the same breath, suggest that the country support it in its time of need, that is New York. You know, we'll help you out, because you need it, just don't condescend. The examples are 6 years long, too numerous to mention, but I've read alot. Time, Newsweek, People, Entertainment Weekly, Broadcast networks, all supposed to serve the entire country, ended up overdoing it completely. Maybe I'm sensitive to it, but I've definitely recognised an overall pattern over the years. Compare the output to Oklahoma City a few years before. Even Ted Koppel of Nightline suggested, by comparison, the squeeky wheel got the grease. Sorry about this, just an observation, but a very accurate, unbiased observation. 
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07-24-2007, 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by milquetoast
What makes a city over-rated, FutureCop? New York doesn't come close in leading the world in almost everything, ya gotta re-align your paradigm, dude! Get out of that hamster cage and see a little actuality. Please, don't be embarassing. More money was moving thru London before 9/11.  I also wouldn't expect you to acknowledge the promotional whoring from New Yawk these past 6 years. You should try being on the receiving end of that crap! What was the topic of this thread again? 
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I agree.
NYC is just too damn expensive. I assume most of us live normal lives. The time you have to go to the "club" or "art gallery" or "museum" is limited. How many does a person need? If you live in NYC you better be making some realy nice cash, i'm talking 6 figure plus if you even think you will be living close to that lifestyle.
So yes, NYC is Overrated. It's not very safe, it is right there with any other large city. Good and bad areas and has had it's share of terrorism (not just 9/11). It's not "sex in the city" "friends". It's like any other major city in the USA only way more packed in. With more density there will be more things (like many Starbucks in Midtown for example). You can find what you can find in NYC in pretty much every US major city.
Overhyped. It's not the center of the Universe. Maybe for a few New York City fanatics.
Overpriced. People are paying thousands a month to live in small apartments in Manhattan. It's crazy. For that you can move to another city and pay less/bigger apartment, or leave the city completely and own a home with land.
NYC gets my vote and unfortunately I live here. Can't wait to leave though.
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07-24-2007, 04:34 AM
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It's like any other major city in the USA only way more packed in.
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In a way, I agree with this very strongly. The beloved cities on this site are just regular American cities with different facades. People act like there aren't nice restaurants are quality jazz clubs elsewhere in a country of 300+ million people.
At the same time, though, the population of a place like NYC is bound to bring a bit more variety and flow of ideas just on numbers alone. Some places may have the same nightclubs, but not the same convergence of creativity due to fewer brains coming into the fray. The more famous cities, on merit or not, are going to attract these types, too.
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07-24-2007, 09:13 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by milquetoast
What makes a city over-rated, FutureCop? New York doesn't come close in leading the world in almost everything, ya gotta re-align your paradigm, dude! Get out of that hamster cage and see a little actuality. Please, don't be embarassing. More money was moving thru London before 9/11.  I also wouldn't expect you to acknowledge the promotional whoring from New Yawk these past 6 years. You should try being on the receiving end of that crap! What was the topic of this thread again? 
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You was talking to Future Cop, right?
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07-24-2007, 10:22 AM
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Miami is it. The city of pretenders and fakes.
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07-25-2007, 11:20 AM
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alot of cities here are some. Houston, Austin, Atlanta, Miami, Seattle, Boston.
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07-25-2007, 12:12 PM
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I can't believe I'm saying this, but I think Denver is an overhyped city. People have this notion of Denver as being in some Rocky Mountain Middle-Earth fantasyland, and when they come there for the first time, especially flying into the airport, they are often disappointed at what they see. Even though the westernmost outskirts of the Denver suburbs butt up to the mountains, the core of the city of Denver and most of the other suburbs are located a way's away in some of the driest, brownest, yellowest, most barren plains you could ever imagine. The older parts of the city have a lot of greenery, but it is all due to extensive irrigation. Cities like Phoenix and Las Vegas are even drier and more extreme than Denver, but people come there expecting to see desert, whereas it's not really how most people picture Denver.
Also, downtown Denver has a lot of cool spots, and overall it is better than most other downtowns of its size, but the sixteenth street mall, badged as "the thing to do" for tourists, is totally lame. It's supposedly a pedestrian only street, except it's not-- it has vehicular traffic, just bus-only. Almost everything along it's mile long strip is a chain establishment. Every single block has a Starbucks on it-- it's almost mind-numbing! It's also a magnet for homeless bums, street performers, and other riff-raff. Don't get me wrong-- Denver is a great city, but the tourism and real estate marketers have done a really good job of distorting what it is.
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07-25-2007, 12:17 PM
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Colorado Springs-no culture,no diversity,nothing to do.Its just plainout boring.
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07-25-2007, 12:45 PM
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"It's like any other major city in the USA only way more packed in. With more density there will be more things (like many Starbucks in Midtown for example). You can find what you can find in NYC in pretty much every US major city."
If Starbucks and similar chains are your definition of what you can find. I don't live in NY, but I couldn't disagree with you any stronger. The entertainment (opera, symphony, jazz clubs, comedy clubs, ballet, broadway), food, shops, non-chain bistros/bars/bakeries/pizza, architecture, not to mention the energy of the place, the museums. Sorry- I don't think there is an American city that compares. Also, Central Park is one of the best people watching spots on earth. Chicago, Boston, and SF are the only other American cities that are even close, and they are not that close. If your idea of fun is going to the GAP and drinking starbucks- sure you can get that in some dull Southern/Midwest city. Otherwise I strongly disagree.
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