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View Poll Results: Which is More Diverse?
NYC 82 66.67%
Toronto 41 33.33%
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Old 02-03-2011, 05:39 AM
 
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These two cities are known to have huge populations of immigrants and ethnic enclaves, but some say Toronto is far more diverse than NYC while othrs say NYC is.
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Old 02-03-2011, 05:44 AM
 
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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Ethnically it's New York, however Racially its Toronto. There's different types of diversity, neither answer is wrong and both are accepted.

You see New York is represented with people from every country in the world, and yes that includes people who have been born and raised on small countries like Monaco & The Vatican. There are citizens in New York that hold a passport for every nation in this world, and that is what makes New York THE most cosmopolitan city in the world. It's impressive in itself because countries like the Maldives, Monaco, & The Vatican are very low populated since they are so small. In Monaco & The Vatican's case, both countries are less than 1 Square Mile in size and only have a limited population (a few thousand people), so for there to be people from these two respective country's in New York, says quite a lot.

However, racially (White, Black, Asian, & Hispanic) Toronto has a more balanced share, which is why it in that aspect is more diverse than New York, however Toronto is also very ethnically diverse, although not to the degree of New York, but its quite possibly the 2nd most diverse city in North America ethnically.
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Old 02-03-2011, 05:59 AM
 
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I voted NYC.

Toronto is second, but historically Toronto was exclusively white until only about 50 years ago. Only with the introduction of Trudeau's multiculturalism in the 70's did the city grow more ethnic.

Toronto might pass NYC, but I doubt it.
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Old 02-03-2011, 06:01 AM
 
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toronto is the most diverse place in north america i beleive. So toronto gets my vote.

pretty much everything exist in toronto. Well NYC to but i think toronto is more diverse with it. I want to go their badly. I have been to montreal and even that city is breath taking.
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Old 02-03-2011, 06:21 AM
 
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DANNYY has it spot on, NYC is diverse in terms of variety of people, while Toronto has more even representation.
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Old 02-03-2011, 06:24 AM
 
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Both are the most ethnically diverse cities on earth according to the UN.
Toronto:

Visible Minorities in the City of Toronto (2006)

Whites: approx. 52%
Aboriginal/First Nations/Native Americans: 1.1%
South Asians (Indians/Pakistani) 12%
East Asians (Chinese, Japanese, Korean) 13.3%
Black (mostly Afro-Caribbean and Afro-Americans) 8.4%
Filipino 4.1%
Latin American/Hispanic 2.6%
West Asian (Turks, Persians, Armenians) 1.7%
Southeast Asian (Indonesians, Vietnamese etc.) 1.5%
Arab 0.9%

total visible minorities (non-whites): 46.9%

Most spoken languages in Toronto Metropolitan area:
taken from Community Profiles from the 2006 Census, Statistics Canada - Census Subdivision=

i don't know, if New York can beat this.
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Old 02-03-2011, 06:34 AM
 
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Most spoken languages in Toronto Metropolitan area:



i don't know, if New York can beat this.
There are 170 languages spoken in New York City.
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Old 02-03-2011, 06:48 AM
 
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i don't know, if New York can beat this.
Oh, of course it can. It's New York, and its in the United States and not Canada.

Languages Spoken in New York:
- English: 12,786,189
- Spanish & Creole: 2,416,126
- Chinese: 374,627
- Italian: 294,271
- Russian: 218,765
- French: 180,809
- French Creole: 114,747
- Yiddish: 113,514
- Polish: 111,730
- Korean: 102,105
- Indic Languages: 97,212
- German: 92,709
- Greek: 86,659
- Arabic: 69,959
- Hebrew: 67,675
- Tagalog: 65,506
- Indo-Euro Languages: 61,128
- African Languages: 54,271
- Urdu: 52,448
- Portuguese: 41,378
- Hindi: 41,151
- Slavic Languages: 39,619
- Japanese: 34,569
- Serbo-Coatian: 31,553
- Persian: 25,975
- Vietnamese: 20,249
- Hungarian: 18,421
- Gujarathi: 16,908
- West Germanic Languages: 13,415
- Scandanavian Languages: 11,974

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While there is no precise count, some experts believe New York is home to as many as 800 languages — far more than the 176 spoken by students in the city’s public schools or the 138 that residents of Queens, New York’s most diverse borough, listed on their 2000 census forms.

“It is the capital of language density in the world,” said Daniel Kaufman, an adjunct professor of linguistics at the Graduate Center of the City University of New York. “We’re sitting in an endangerment hot spot where we are surrounded by languages that are not going to be around even in 20 or 30 years.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/29/nyregion/29lost.html
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Old 02-03-2011, 07:14 AM
 
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Wow there's almost as many italian speakers in Toronto than NYC! That's incredibly hard to believe. How long have italians been established in NYC for? Looks as if most of them can't even speak the language.
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Old 02-03-2011, 07:38 AM
 
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Both are the most ethnically diverse cities on earth according to the UN.
Yes.

The difference is that racially like I mentioned earlier, Toronto is more balanced than New York. New York racially has a large "White" population compared to Toronto (by percentages) because Europeans (New York's largest immigration point and ancestry) make up a large chunk of New York's demographics however immigration with Latin America & Asia is a lot larger in New York now than ever before.

But ethnically, which is representation and inclusion of all nationalities in the world and every country being represented, New York takes the lead there over Toronto. So yes, both cities have their advantages here, and certainly along with London, all three are the three most diverse cities in the world, seems like.

Anyways to address your post with the demographics and statistics on New York like you did for Toronto, here they are. View them, and see how both cities compare.

New York Nationality Framework:
- American: 664,325
- Arab: 215,943
- Czech: 73,848
- Danish: 41,071
- Dutch: 178,739
- English: 937,449
- French: 329,670
- French Canadian: 84,352
- German: 1,909,652
- Greek: 228,771
- Hungarian: 245,713
- Irish: 2,744,968
- Italian: 3,472,548
- Lithuanian: 76,363
- Norwegian: 109,701
- Polish: 1,104,147
- Portuguese: 159,651
- Russian: 648,871
- Scotch-Irish: 74,839
- Scottish: 206,339
- Slovak: 68,261
- Subsaharan African: 305,880
- Swedish: 129,029
- Swiss: 40,415
- Ukrainian: 143,917
- Welsh: 59,059
- West Indian: 941,954

Source: New York-Newark-Bridgeport, NY-NJ-CT-PA CSA - Selected Social Characteristics in the United States: 2009

Foreign Born by Continent:
Europe: 1,049,059
Asia: 1,540,638
Africa: 230,061
Oceania: 13,393
Latin America: 2,832,691
Northern America: 50,687

Total: 5,716,529

Foreign born entered 2000 or later: 1,678,844
Foreign born entered before 2000: 4,037,736

Total: 5,716,580

Population born outside of the United States: 6,353,755

Source: New York-Newark-Bridgeport, NY-NJ-CT-PA CSA - Selected Social Characteristics in the United States: 2009

New York Nationality Index:
- Asian Indian: 555,788
- Bangladeshi: 49,662
- Cambodian: 6,390
- Chinese: 649,430
- Filipino: 214,072
- Hmong: 230
- Indonesian: 7,578
- Japanese: 53,933
- Korean: 201,393
- Laotian: 2,089
- Malaysian: 1,622
- Pakistani: 71,908
- Sri Lankan: 7,475
- Taiwanese: 16,284
- Thai: 10,582
- Vietnamese: 37,417
- Other Asian: 33,354
- Other Asian, not specified: 12,056

Total: 1,931,263

Source: Detailed Tables - American FactFinder

New York Nationality Index II:
- Mexican: 600,598
- Puerto Rican: 1,426,291
- Cuban: 149,350
- Dominican: 830,884
- Costa Rican: 31,126
- Guatemalan: 123,692
- Honduran: 88,581
- Nicaraguan: 19,302
- Panamanian: 30,662
- Salvadoran: 202,839
- Argentinean: 39,452
- Bolivian: 10,894
- Chilean: 27,133
- Columbian: 253,186
- Ecuadorian: 360,145
- Paraguayan: 8,009
- Peruvian: 160,056
- Uruguayan: 16,007
- Venezuelan: 19,466
- Spaniard: 48,295
- Spanish: 19,605
- Spanish American: 522

- Other South American: 4,563
- Other Central American: 3,899
- Other Hispanic or Latino: 169,537
- All other Hispanic or Latino: 101,115

- South American: 898,911
- Central American: 500,101

Total: 4,575,672

Source: Detailed Tables - American FactFinder

New York Race Index:
- White: 14,145,389
- Black: 3,712,588
- Asian: 1,931,263
- Hispanic: 4,575,672
- American Indian & Native Alaskan: 59,001
- Native Hawaiian: 5,564
- Some other Race: 1,914,920 (Brazilians, Portuguese, Pacific Islanders, & other outliers not designated)
- Two or more races: 463,769

Source: Detailed Tables - American FactFinder

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