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Unread 03-08-2011, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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Sacramento MSA:
- Yolo County, CA: 200,849
- Placer County, CA: 348,432
- El Dorado County, CA: 181,058
- Sacramento County, CA: 1,418,788
Total: 2,149,127

Sacramento CSA:
- Yolo County, CA: 200,849
- Placer County, CA: 348,432
- El Dorado County, CA: 181,058
- Sacramento County, CA: 1,418,788
- Yuba County, CA: 72,155
- Sutter County, CA: 94,737
- Nevada County, CA: 98,764
- Douglas County, NV: 46,997
Total: 2,461,780

EDIT: When they release the 2010 GDP measurements, the Bay Area is going to see a massive increase in per capita income. The population count correlated to the GDP outcome will push it above almost every single place in the country (if it hasn't already) making it the wealthiest region of the country.
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Unread 03-08-2011, 02:16 PM
 
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Little growth for San Jose which is only 945,000, and it's not surprising at all since there are all of vacant housing there. San Diego grew a little faster with 1,307,000. Again, no surprise there. I actually expect little or no growth from here on out. It's way overpriced in these region. What's going on, that everyone expected much faster growth? I pretty much knew all along. When I put my predictions, I had to post higher than I thought because the bloggers would really think that I'm nuts or just trolling. I had to play it safe. San Jose and San Diego are mature cities with decent downtowns.
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Unread 03-08-2011, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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Here is the update for today.

By City:
- Los Angeles: 3,792,621
- Chicago: 2,695,598
- Houston: 2,099,451
- San Antonio: 1,327,407
- San Diego: 1,307,402
- Dallas: 1,197,816
- San Jose: 945,942
- Indianapolis: 829,718
- San Francisco: 805,235
- Austin: 790,390
- Fort Worth: 741,206
- Charlotte: 731,424
- El Paso: 649,121
- Seattle: 630,320
- Baltimore: 620,961
- Washington DC: 601,723
- Denver: 600,158
- Portland: 583,776
- Las Vegas: 583,756
- Oklahoma City: 579,999
- Sacramento: 466,488
- Kansas City: 459,787
- Colorado Springs: 416,427
- Omaha: 408,958
- Raleigh: 403,892
- Tulsa: 391,906
- Oakland: 390,724
- New Orleans: 343,829
- Honolulu: 337,256
- Saint Louis: 319,294
- Salt Lake City: 186,440

By MSA:
- Los Angeles MSA: 12,828,837 (Officially Completed)
- Chicago MSA: 9,294,679 (Uncompleted until WI release)
- Dallas/Fort Worth MSA: 6,371,863 (Officially Completed)
- Houston MSA: 5,946,300 (Officially Completed)
- Washington DC MSA: 5,524,972 (Uncompleted until WV release)
- San Francisco/Oakland MSA: 4,335,391 (Officially Completed)
- Seattle MSA: 3,439,809 (Officially Completed)
- San Diego MSA: 3,095,313 (Officially Completed)
- Saint Louis MSA: 2,779,939 (Officially Completed)
- Baltimore MSA: 2,710,489 (Officially Completed)
- Denver MSA: 2,543,482 (Officially Completed)
- Portland MSA: 2,226,009 (Officially Completed)
- Sacramento MSA: 2,149,127 (Officially Completed)
- San Antonio MSA: 2,142,508 (Officially Completed)
- Kansas City MSA: 2,035,334 (Officially Completed)
- Las Vegas MSA: 1,951,269 (Officially Completed)
- San Jose MSA: 1,839,911 (Officially Completed)
- Indianapolis MSA: 1,756,241 (Officially Completed)
- Austin MSA: 1,716,289 (Officially Completed)
- Charlotte MSA: 1,531,965 (Uncompleted until SC release)
- New Orleans MSA: 1,167,764 (Officially Completed)
- Oklahoma City MSA: 1,252,987 (Officially Completed)
- Raleigh MSA: 1,130,490 (Officially Completed)
- Salt Lake City MSA: 1,124,197 (Officially Completed)
- Honolulu MSA: 953,207 (Officially Completed)
- Tulsa MSA: 937,478 (Officially Completed)
- Omaha MSA: 864,350 (Officially Completed)
- El Paso MSA: 800,647 (Officially Completed)

By CSA:
- Los Angeles CSA: 17,877,506 (Officially Completed)
- Chicago CSA: 9,519,595 (Uncompleted until WI release)
- Washington DC/Baltimore CSA: 8,639,239 (Uncompleted until WV release)
- Bay Area CSA: 7,468,390 (Officially Completed)
- Dallas/Fort Worth CSA: 6,610,530 (Officially Completed)
- Houston CSA: 6,051,363 (Officially Completed)
- Seattle CSA: 4,199,312 (Officially Completed)
- Denver CSA: 3,090,874 (Officially Completed)
- Saint Louis CSA: 2,845,298 (Officially Completed)
- Sacramento CSA: 2,461,780 (Officially Completed)
- Charlotte CSA: 2,258,314 (Uncompleted until SC release)
- Kansas City CSA: 2,105,217 (Officially Completed)
- Indianapolis CSA: 2,080,782 (Officially Completed)
- Las Vegas CSA: 1,995,215 (Officially Completed)
- Austin CSA: 1,759,039 (Officially Completed)
- Raleigh/Durham CSA: 1,749,525 (Officially Completed)
- Salt Lake City CSA: 1,744,886 (Officially Completed)
- Oklahoma City CSA: 1,322,429 (Officially Completed)
- New Orleans CSA: 1,214,932 (Officially Completed)
- Tulsa CSA: 988,454 (Officially Completed)
- Omaha CSA: 901,041 (Officially Completed)
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Little growth for San Jose which is only 945,000, and it's not surprising at all since there are all of vacant housing there.
Yeah it seems like San Jose is going to have to wait another decade and a half or so (at least a decade) before it gets to join the 1 Million and up club.
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San Diego grew a little faster with 1,307,000. Again, no surprise there. I actually expect little or no growth from here on out. It's way overpriced in these region.
San Diego seems to have indefinitely held its spot over Dallas, and seems like that will be the case for another 10-15 years to come with the way things went this US Census.
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What's going on, that everyone expected much faster growth?
I think a lot of people put a lot of stock into their cities estimates. The entire rule of doing estimates from here on out, I'm taking it with a grain of salt from now on. It's really not worth believing them over.
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I pretty much knew all along. When I put my predictions, I had to post higher than I thought because the bloggers would really think that I'm nuts or just trolling. I had to play it safe. San Jose and San Diego are mature cities with decent downtowns.
Looks like a done deal to me. I think we know what to expect for the remaining places left. Especially with New York, Georgia, & Florida. I'm curious on Michigan though. Detroit City, MSA, & CSA in particular though.
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Unread 03-08-2011, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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EDIT: When they release the 2010 GDP measurements, the Bay Area is going to see a massive increase in per capita income. The population count correlated to the GDP outcome will push it above almost every single place in the country (if it hasn't already) making it the wealthiest region of the country.
We still have the issue of Stockton to contend with, and that's a double-edge sword cause it adds 685,306 to the Bay Area lifting the CSA population to 8,153.696. We'll have to wait and see if that actually happens.

To be honest, Id rather be rich than have a lot of people.

Also, MegaloNorCal:
Sacramento CSA 2,149,127
San Francisco CSA 7,468,390
Stockton MSA 685,306
Modesto MSA 514,453
Monterey MSA 401,762

2010 Census Total 11,219,038

Last edited by 18Montclair; 03-08-2011 at 03:19 PM..
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Unread 03-08-2011, 03:07 PM
 
Location: bangkok thailand
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I think a lot of people put a lot of stock into their cities estimates. The entire rule of doing estimates from here on out, I'm taking it with a grain of salt from now on. It's really not worth believing them over.
i think ppl put too much stock in the census. their method is no more accurate than the way most cities/states estimate their population.
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Unread 03-08-2011, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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i think ppl put too much stock in the census. their method is no more accurate than the way most cities/states estimate their population.
So true.

The Census Bureau undercounts inner cities like nobody's business. That's why they should use the more intimate knowledge of local cities and states to aid them in their counting procedures.

They did that until 1980 or 1990 and many states have been severely undercounted ever since.
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Unread 03-08-2011, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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- Wednesday Releases (Tomorrow): Pennsylvania, Ohio, & Connecticut.

- Thursday Releases (The Day After): Arizona, Idaho, & Wisconsin

Tomorrow's Detail:
- Ohio: Census 2010 News | Media Advisory — Census Bureau Ships Local 2010 Census Data to Ohio
- Pennsylvania: Census 2010 News | Media Advisory — Census Bureau Ships Local 2010 Census Data to Pennsylvania
- Connecticut: Census 2010 News | Media Advisory — Census Bureau Ships Local 2010 Census Data to Connecticut
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Unread 03-08-2011, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Glendale, CA
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Originally Posted by DANNYY View Post
Here is the update for today.


By MSA:
- Los Angeles MSA: 12,828,837 (Officially Completed)
- Chicago MSA: 9,294,679 (Uncompleted until WI release)
- Dallas/Fort Worth MSA: 6,371,863 (Officially Completed)
- Houston MSA: 5,946,300 (Officially Completed)
- Washington DC MSA: 5,524,972 (Uncompleted until WV release)
- San Francisco/Oakland MSA: 4,335,391 (Officially Completed)
- Seattle MSA: 3,439,809 (Officially Completed)
- San Diego MSA: 3,095,313 (Officially Completed)
- Saint Louis MSA: 2,779,939 (Officially Completed)
- Baltimore MSA: 2,710,489 (Officially Completed)
- Denver MSA: 2,543,482 (Officially Completed)
- Portland MSA: 2,226,009 (Officially Completed)
- Sacramento MSA: 2,149,127 (Officially Completed)
- San Antonio MSA: 2,142,508 (Officially Completed)
- Kansas City MSA: 2,035,334 (Officially Completed)
- Las Vegas MSA: 1,951,269 (Officially Completed)
- San Jose MSA: 1,839,911 (Officially Completed)
- Indianapolis MSA: 1,756,241 (Officially Completed)
- Austin MSA: 1,716,289 (Officially Completed)
- Charlotte MSA: 1,531,965 (Uncompleted until SC release)
- New Orleans MSA: 1,167,764 (Officially Completed)
- Oklahoma City MSA: 1,252,987 (Officially Completed)
- Raleigh MSA: 1,130,490 (Officially Completed)
- Salt Lake City MSA: 1,124,197 (Officially Completed)
- Honolulu MSA: 953,207 (Officially Completed)
- Tulsa MSA: 937,478 (Officially Completed)
- Omaha MSA: 864,350 (Officially Completed)
- El Paso MSA: 800,647 (Officially Completed)
Shouldn't the Riverside/San Bernardino MSA be in here somewhere?
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Unread 03-08-2011, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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Shouldn't the Riverside/San Bernardino MSA be in here somewhere?
Yeah but I mostly just consider that entire MSA to be a far reaching and expansive (very expansive and huge) suburb of Los Angeles (No offense to anyone living there). But here is the information on that though (see below).

Riverside-San Bernardino MSA:
- Riverside County, CA: 2,189,641
- San Bernardino County, CA: 2,035,210
Total: 4,224,851

I always forget how large the Inland Empire really is, it seems just shooting distance from San Francisco/Oakland MSA at this point. And given the trends of the last decade, poised to surpass it and compete directly with Phoenix MSA (similar in size).
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Unread 03-08-2011, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Glendale, CA
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Yeah but I mostly just consider that entire MSA to be a far reaching and expansive (very expansive and huge) suburb of Los Angeles (No offense to anyone living there). But here is the information on that though (see below).

Riverside-San Bernardino MSA:
- Riverside County, CA: 2,189,641
- San Bernardino County, CA: 2,035,210
Total: 4,224,851

I always forget how large the Inland Empire really is, it seems just shooting distance from San Francisco/Oakland MSA at this point. And given the trends of the last decade, poised to surpass it and compete directly with Phoenix MSA (similar in size).
I agree with you, and I still don't understand why the census bureau separated out the Inland Empire from LA from an MSA perspective. If you ever take a look at the 91, 60, 10, and 210 freeways on a morning rush hour, you KNOW that tons of people commute into LA/OC.

I just thought you were being comprehensive from an "MSA List" perspective and missed one.
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