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Old 02-12-2011, 03:11 PM
 
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Is the statement the truth? Unfortunately yes. 55% of the incoming freshmen in the Philadelphia public school system will not graduate from high school.There is deep seeded problems in this city that are unfixable at the present time. Luring more businesses to Philadephia is not going to change the fact that Philadlephia has major problems at its core.

I keep hearing about well SF doesnt have sparkling highways and their airport isnt so hot. Sf sells itself gang.SF is one of the richest counties in the usa whereas Philadelphia is one of the poorest. SF is an elitist tiny penisula surrounded by incredible natural beauty which is filled with highly educated rich people.

 
Old 02-12-2011, 03:14 PM
 
Location: NY/FL
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Wtf is your point?
 
Old 02-12-2011, 03:21 PM
 
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These city vs. city forum posts just keep getting weirder and weirder.
 
Old 02-12-2011, 03:23 PM
 
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SF also treats everyone in the city who wasn't born with a silver spoon sticking out of there butt like a pile of garbage.
Well, as does Philadelphia, just not AS badly.
 
Old 02-12-2011, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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I many be a die-hard Bay Area loyalist, but I have no pointing whatsoever in pointing out that San Francisco also has many, many problems to deal with, just like Philadelphia.

Homelessness and traffic congestion immediately come to mind. We also have a horrendous cost of living and sometimes the one-sidedness of the politics can be annoying for someone who finds themselves becoming more moderate such as myself.
 
Old 02-12-2011, 04:09 PM
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Is the statement the truth? Unfortunately yes. 55% of the incoming freshmen in the Philadelphia public school system will not graduate from high school.There is deep seeded problems in this city that are unfixable at the present time. Luring more businesses to Philadephia is not going to change the fact that Philadlephia has major problems at its core.

I keep hearing about well SF doesnt have sparkling highways and their airport isnt so hot. Sf sells itself gang.SF is one of the richest counties in the usa whereas Philadelphia is one of the poorest. SF is an elitist tiny penisula surrounded by incredible natural beauty which is filled with highly educated rich people.
you sir, are full of crap.
 
Old 02-12-2011, 04:12 PM
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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Yes, Philadelphia has lots of poor people (who tend to be less likely to graduate h.s.). San Francisco does not have so many poor people. Nor could they afford to live there.
 
Old 02-12-2011, 05:04 PM
 
Location: San Leandro
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The bay area characters are coming out of the wood work as usual.
 
Old 02-12-2011, 05:34 PM
 
Location: The City
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The bay area characters are coming out of the wood work as usual.

Yeah seems a bit much, on edcuation overall, the Philly area is excellent in the country for education at all levels which most places would envy, there are a very select few places considered better, and if they are it is only by a short margin. The Phildelphia public school system is a mess though, truly one of the biggest issues the city and region faces, there is very bad poverty in areas of philadelphia that are extremely troubling

Not to mention Philadelphia is sorrounded by some of the wealthiest counties in the country; Chester, Montgomery and Bucks are all among the wealthiest counties in the country with a collective population of more than 2.5 million not to mention some extremely wealthy counties in Jersey as well.

On a sunbtle note, if you compared the cores of both cities, the Center City philly population is 3rd most educated in the country (city itself) and also has the highest percentage of people with advanced degrees in the country, SF on the same metric is 4 or 5 cities below on both metrics.

But really this thread is pretty silly

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Old 02-12-2011, 05:34 PM
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Yes, Philadelphia has lots of poor people (who tend to be less likely to graduate h.s.). San Francisco does not have so many poor people. Nor could they afford to live there.
Household income in San Francisco in 2009 (324,185 total households):

Less than $10,000 (21,415 households) - 6.6%
$10,000 to $14,999 (19,942 households) - 6.2%
$15,000 to $24,999 (26,232 households) - 8.1%
$25,000 to $34,999 (22,506 households) - 6.9%
$35,000 to $49,999 (32,363 households) - 10.0%
$50,000 to $74,999 (48,560 households) - 15.0%

28% of SF households make less than $35,000 a year...and this is in SF, where $35k goes even less far than in every other US city aside from NYC. Another 25% of SF's households make $35,000 to $75,000 which should probably put most of them in the lower class/lower middle class category. Also, over 90,000 of SF's residents live below the national poverty line (which is even more extreme in an ultra expensive place like SF), or about 11% of the population (slightly below the national average yes, but remember the difference in cost of living, which is not reflected in census poverty stats). Looking at those numbers, i fail to see how one could conclude that SF is even close to being mostly wealthy, or having few poor people.

Yes of course Philadelphia has more poor people, but SF is for better or worse no slouch in that department either, despite the stereotype that it's completely full of rich people.
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