Cleveland Vs. Chicago For High Art (parks, metro, living, best)

[ForYourLungsOnly]

But it doesn't matter. Both cities have a great art scene. I honestly don't even see this as a fair comparison. Is compare Cleveland to a city like Pittsburgh, not Chicago.

[andrew61]

Originally Posted by grmasterb

Quite frankly, I don't care where you go in the world, the arts are generally a niche thing and the vast majority of the masses rarely pay attention to them.

This is true. When I lived in Cleveland, although I knew a number of people who were very into "high culture" and the arts, the vast majority of people I knew all but totally ignored that stuff. It just wasn't a part of their lives and interests.

I find the same is true in Chicago.

[ForYourLungsOnly]

iI'm sorry, but it costs 18 bucks to get into AIC. if that's the upper crust of society please tell me what poverty is.

[AGuyFromCleveland18]

Originally Posted by ForYourLungsOnly

iI'm sorry, but it costs 18 bucks to get into AIC. if that's the upper crust of society please tell me what poverty is.

That's a lot of money when you can barely afford to put food on the table or clothe your family.

[DANNYY]

Originally Posted by ForYourLungsOnly

iI'm sorry, but it costs 18 bucks to get into AIC. if that's the upper crust of society please tell me what poverty is.

Dude seriously if people think $18 is "upper class" and expensive then I'm just sorry. Honestly its chump change, in my opinion.

[AGuyFromCleveland18]

I have an honest question. How much cultural outreach do the museums and orchestra in Chicago do for inner city Chicagoans?

[andrew61]

Originally Posted by Chicago60614

I actually thought he must have been talking about Cleveland when he said the museums are on an island or separated by a freeway. Chicago doesn't even have any islands. There are the aquarium/planetarium and Field Museum on a museum campus on the southside of downtown, but there isn't a freeway cutting anything off. I know Lakeshore goes through that area, but there are huge walkways around that road, and the muesums are 1/2 mile or less from two different train stations.

Plus there are buses that serve them directly.

I don't know that it matters one way or the other. Different cities simply were developed differently and have different configurations. I do like how in Cleveland, you have a massive concentration of cultural institutions within a one-square-mile area (University Circle) that is a scenic, parklike setting and also boasts a college campus... I'm not sure, but I think I've heard/read that there are as many as 75 different institutions within that small area, making it the largest collection of its kind in the nation.

But I also like how, in Chicago, the most important cultural institutions are centrally located instead of being quite a ways out on one side of town or the other. IMHO, it makes them more readily accessible to all the residents regardless of which side of town you live on.

[ForYourLungsOnly]

Originally Posted by AGuyFromCleveland18

That's a lot of money when you can barely afford to put food on the table or clothe your family.

Ahh... a completely irrelevant, inaccurate, and ridiculoilus assumption about someone you've never met to try and 'support' your losing argument. Like Danny said, 18 is nothing to get into one of the best museums in the country. You have reduced your argument to pointless attempts at insults and assumptions that have only made your argument look worse.

[andrew61]

Originally Posted by Chicago76

Take the list with a grain of salt though. How are you supposed to rate orchestras? It's like coming up with a definitive list of the 100 most beautiful women in the world.

I myself have often wondered who is in the business of ranking orchestras, and what criteria do they use?

[andrew61]

Originally Posted by LINative

I kinda of get your point. Chicago's institutions are on the edge of the city (literally!) while Cleveland's are more centered.

Actually, Chicago's institutions are centrally located within the downtown area, while Cleveland's are virtually almost at the eastern city limits.