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View Poll Results: Biggest Census Surprise: 2010
Chicago 28 41.18%
Dallas 11 16.18%
Houston 8 11.76%
All are very surprising 21 30.88%
Voters: 68. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-17-2011, 02:39 PM
 
Location: The City
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Well with the early results in, which numbers (all below estimates) are the most surprising?

Think this may be a sign of things to come for many cities.


Edit: Should clarify to date as of 2/17/2011, am sure there will be more surprises

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Old 02-17-2011, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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So far Chicago, that loss (city) is just overwhelmingly a major surprise.

After that I would say Houston so far for the city & tied with Dallas/Fort Worth so far for the metro populations.

Places that got more than estimates were El Paso (MSA), Indianapolis (CSA), Oklahoma City (CSA), Washington DC/Bamtimore (CSA), Washington DC (MSA), & Tulsa (CSA). Those were all places that beat their estimates. I noticed places with low Census form returns got screwed on the city proper populations.
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Old 02-17-2011, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Old 02-17-2011, 03:14 PM
 
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What were the Dallas metro estimates?
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Old 02-17-2011, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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What were the Dallas metro estimates?
Dallas/Fort Worth MSA (Estimates): 6.67 Million
Dallas/Fort Worth CSA (Estimates): 6.91 Million

The Official Numbers:
Dallas/Fort Worth MSA (Official): 6.37 Million
Dallas/Fort Worth CSA (Official): 6.61 Million

Difference Between Estimates & Official:
Dallas/Fort Worth MSA: -300,000
Dallas/Fort Worth CSA: -300,000
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Old 02-17-2011, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Denver
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Wait...weren't Houston and Dallas supposed to break like 15,000,000 people this year? Weren't they growing at 4,000% per annum for like the past decade? What happened?
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Old 02-17-2011, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Dallas,Texas
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Wait...weren't Houston and Dallas supposed to break like 15,000,000 people this year? Weren't they growing at 4,000% per annum for like the past decade? What happened?
The census has to be wrong. I can't believe Dallas has 1.1 million people, that's crazy!
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Old 02-17-2011, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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Wait...weren't Houston and Dallas supposed to break like 15,000,000 people this year? Weren't they growing at 4,000% per annum for like the past decade? What happened?
I actually do believe they gained more than stated and that Chicago should be nothing less than 2.75 Million people, at worst case scenario minimum.

This is what happened to them, these three at least.

Census Return Forms Completion Rate to Federal Government by City:
Dallas: 68% Census Form Return Rate
Chicago: 66% Census Form Return Rate
Houston: 70% Census Form Return Rate
New York: 63% Census Form Return Rate (Population not released yet though)

United States Average: 74%

Source: 2010 Census Mail Participation Rate Map - 2010 Census

None of these city's stand a chance against the US Census, they all faired very poorly for getting their citizen's involved in returning the US Census forms. Ultimately this really is a very outdated method to do population counts, but the city's have no one to blame besides their locals for not participating and taking the US Census seriously.
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The census has to be wrong. I can't believe Dallas has 1.1 million people, that's crazy!
The Census isn't wrong, its an inanimate object but the people in your city are wrong for throwing away Census forms and not participating in it.
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Old 02-17-2011, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Denver
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I actually do believe they gained more than stated and that Chicago should be nothing less than 2.75 Million people, at worst case scenario minimum.

This is what happened to them, these three at least.

Census Return Forms Completion Rate to Federal Government by City:
Dallas: 68% Census Form Return Rate
Chicago: 66% Census Form Return Rate
Houston: 70% Census Form Return Rate
New York: 63% Census Form Return Rate (Population not released yet though)

United States Average: 74%

Source: 2010 Census Mail Participation Rate Map - 2010 Census

None of these city's stand a chance against the US Census, they all faired very poorly for getting their citizen's involved in returning the US Census forms. Ultimately this really is a very outdated method to do population counts, but the city's have no one to blame besides their locals for not participating and taking the US Census seriously.

The Census isn't wrong, its an inanimate object but the people in your city are wrong for throwing away Census forms and not participating in it.
I feel like we can't start to question the data though....this won't be the only census which has poor return rates...so we're criticizing what may be faulty data which is being compared to 2000 Census data which may itself be faulty.

The truth is, we've been saying "wait til the Census data comes out, wait til the Census data comes out"...now that it's out people are upset and shouting "That can't be right!". We may not agree with the numbers, but this is the only official source for data which we have, so we can't whine about it. (Not accusing you, or others, of whining)

P.S. If Boston is lower than expected, I agree with everyone that the census is wrong and we should base our populations off the estimates we like the best
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Old 02-17-2011, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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That's my answer. I find it hard to believe Dallas only grew by 9,000 people.
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