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Old 02-18-2011, 10:54 PM
 
Location: BMORE!
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MDallstar... get outta here with that DC nonsense. Honestly, is the only good thing about Baltimore is that It's closer to other cities?
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Old 02-19-2011, 09:23 AM
 
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Baltimore looks and feels much smaller than St. Louis. Why? St. Louis built-up environment is not concentric. In some areas, it's very small, but in other areas, it extends well beyond the city center. For example, I-70 from downtown St. Louis westward to the periphery of the built-up area is about 30 miles, something you find with metros of around 5-6 million, not 3 million.

Meanwhile, Baltimore is at most (minus-the DC connection along I-95 and the Baltimore-Washington Freeway) fifteen miles from the city center.
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Old 02-19-2011, 09:43 AM
 
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st. louis has almost 3 million people in its metro area. baltimore has about 2.7 million. the two cities are very similar in so many ways.
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Old 02-19-2011, 10:03 AM
 
Location: moving again
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I get the feeling your homesick.

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Why do places like Tulsa, Omaha, Des Moines and Wichita have nicer arenas than Baltimore. Nicer zoos etc.
Have you been to the zoo?
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Old 02-19-2011, 10:11 AM
 
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I think Baltimore and St. Louis need to MERGE WITH THEIR COUNTIES!!! There I said it.

phew, glad to get that off my back.

Can we have these two cities in the top 10 again please? They are my favorite.
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Old 02-19-2011, 10:15 AM
 
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Baltimore has D.C. 40 miles away which puts it way ahead of St. Louis. St. Louis doesn't even have 1/2 of what D.C. offers so I think that puts Baltimore way over St. Louis.
We're talking about Baltimore here, not DC. Why does it matter if Baltimore is near DC? Can't it stand on its own as a city? I think it can...
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Old 02-19-2011, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Washington, DC area
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st. louis has almost 3 million people in its metro area. baltimore has about 2.7 million. the two cities are very similar in so many ways.
I would personally say the metro is closer to 2.3 or 2.4 million. Howard County, AA County etc are just as much a part of the DC MSA as they are the Balt MSA.

Baltimore is just such a cool city and has so much potential. I really like the city, but I'm just thinking of things it could do to improve itself.

St Louis feels much larger than Baltimore to me, I guess because it's more of a regional city where Baltimore is kinda in the shadow of DC and Philly.

I do get the feeling that urban Baltimore has come a long way (like most urban centers) in the past decade or so. But Baltimore should rise even higher.
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Old 02-19-2011, 07:51 PM
 
Location: South St Louis
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Baltimore has D.C. 40 miles away which puts it way ahead of St. Louis. St. Louis doesn't even have 1/2 of what D.C. offers so I think that puts Baltimore way over St. Louis.
St Louis does it all by itelf. It doesn't need to rely on a nearby MSA to boost itself. and it doesn't play second fiddle to a bigger neighboring metro.
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Old 02-19-2011, 08:52 PM
 
Location: BMORE!
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Baltimore looks and feels much smaller than St. Louis. Why? St. Louis built-up environment is not concentric. In some areas, it's very small, but in other areas, it extends well beyond the city center. For example, I-70 from downtown St. Louis westward to the periphery of the built-up area is about 30 miles, something you find with metros of around 5-6 million, not 3 million.

Meanwhile, Baltimore is at most (minus-the DC connection along I-95 and the Baltimore-Washington Freeway) fifteen miles from the city center.
u couldn't be more incorrect. I'll post pics soon.
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Old 02-19-2011, 10:56 PM
 
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Baltimore feels much larger than St. Louis. Plus St. Louis has that slow paced Midwest vibe.
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