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Old 02-25-2011, 01:20 PM
 
Location: The City of Shoes and Booze
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As part of your plan, OP, are you suggesting that Baltimore demolish its northern half to become more like St. Louis?
The northern half of St. Louis isn't as bad as you think it is and Baltimore already has a north St. Louis it's called West Baltimore
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Old 02-25-2011, 01:22 PM
 
Location: moving again
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The northern half of St. Louis isn't as bad as you think it is and Baltimore already has a north St. Louis it's called West Baltimore
I think the poster was saying that Baltimore should demolish its northern half, which is its suburban part in order to become more like St. Louis with less suburban neighborhoods. Not so much anything to do with the north St. Louis ghetto...
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Old 02-25-2011, 01:33 PM
 
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I think the poster was saying that Baltimore should demolish its northern half, which is its suburban part in order to become more like St. Louis with less suburban neighborhoods. Not so much anything to do with the north St. Louis ghetto...
Oh well I apologize if that is what they meant, I just saw demolished and North St. Louis so I assumed that was what they were talking about that.
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Old 02-25-2011, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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As part of your plan, OP, are you suggesting that Baltimore demolish its northern half to become more like St. Louis?
Do you believe everything you hear about STL?
You should really take some time to visit, North STL has been steadily improving, lots more work to do on it, but its come a long way.
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Old 02-25-2011, 01:40 PM
 
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The northern half of St. Louis isn't as bad as you think it is and Baltimore already has a north St. Louis it's called West Baltimore
Except, of course, for the fact that there are still buildings in W. Baltimore. I didn't say St. Louis was bad, BTW; I actually like green fields - particularly when they're next to downtown.
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Old 02-25-2011, 01:45 PM
 
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Do you believe everything you hear about STL?
You should really take some time to visit, North STL has been steadily improving, lots more work to do on it, but its come a long way.
Get there often? I just love when people from St. Louis like to deny 60 years of history. Next you'll be telling me the old "it's not about the city, it's about the city and county" cherry, because the city is "small" geographically... St. Louis has lost 63% of its population since 1950, far more than any other US major city - including Detroit. As the old saying goes, "You can't change a problem until you recognize you have a problem."
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Old 02-25-2011, 02:08 PM
 
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Except, of course, for the fact that there are still buildings in W. Baltimore. I didn't say St. Louis was bad, BTW; I actually like green fields - particularly when they're next to downtown.
North St. Louis still has buildings standing too.

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Get there often? I just love when people from St. Louis like to deny 60 years of history. Next you'll be telling me the old "it's not about the city, it's about the city and county" cherry, because the city is "small" geographically... St. Louis has lost 63% of its population since 1950, far more than any other US major city - including Detroit. As the old saying goes, "You can't change a problem until you recognize you have a problem."
No one is denying St. Louis doesn't have a problem. We know we have high crime, bad public schools, high poverty, not enough jobs, racial tension... Oh wait I just described Baltimore as well. Looks like we have more in common than everyone thinks
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Old 02-25-2011, 02:14 PM
 
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fairmont, evesham park, woodberry, and several others. none of these neighborhoods are characterized by baltimore's vernacular rowhomes. actually, they are much more suburban (in some parts semi-rural) than any portion of st. louis city. and they're all in baltimore city.
Then again, are they truly "Much more suburban than any portion of St. Louis"?

Here are some suburban areas of St. Louis City.

7385 Yates Street, St. Louis, MO - Google Maps

2 Homeland Place - Google Maps

9892 Parkway Drive - Google Maps
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Old 02-25-2011, 02:20 PM
 
Location: The City of Shoes and Booze
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Then again, are they truly "Much more suburban than any portion of St. Louis"?

Here are some suburban areas of St. Louis City.

7385 Yates Street, St. Louis, MO - Google Maps

2 Homeland Place - Google Maps

9892 Parkway Drive - Google Maps
Firstly the last link isn't in the city.
Secondly the neighborhoods in the first two links were the last to be built in the City of St. Louis so naturally they are more suburban, but every city has those types of neighborhoods.
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Old 02-25-2011, 02:27 PM
 
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Firstly the last link isn't in the city.
Secondly the neighborhoods in the first two links were the last to be built in the City of St. Louis so naturally they are more suburban, but every city has those types of neighborhoods.
Are you sure the last link isn't in the city? Google earth showed it as in the city, in the neighborhood of Riverview.

Secondly, exactly. Each city has them, so saying Baltimore has areas that are much more suburban than anywhere in St. Louis is false.
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