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View Poll Results: Which one is the most important?
Bay Area 286 58.37%
Boston 90 18.37%
Philadelphia 93 18.98%
Confused 21 4.29%
Voters: 490. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-05-2011, 07:04 AM
 
Location: Seattle Area
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Evem though everyone seems to think The Bay area is the most innovative place in the country, and it is innovative, Philadelphia easily creates the more important world changing innovations. For example, the bay area may have created twitter, facebook, google etc. but Philly created the first modern computer, which is the foundation of the current technological revolution we are living in. Just one of many, in a long line of first to come out of Philly, by and large, Philly laid the foundation for the modern world we live in and know today, everything from electricity, to modern infrastructure, human rights, modern education, and modern democracy. Philly has ushered in almost every recent renaissance that has made the world what it is today. Even though Philly seems to sleep at the moment, it's actually just brewing something new to change the world yet again, who knows what it will be this time, but we all know out of it's colleges the true cutting edge exists.
For the exception of the highlighted part very well said
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Old 03-05-2011, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Villanova Pa.
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San Francisco-Boston-Philadlephia? Which one is most important?


Importance probably shouldnt be measured by arbitrary geographical boundaries which can pad + skew economic statistics towards your city/region. Nobody does this better than the public relations machine that is the "Bay Area". Who along with Wash-Bal invented a new economic measuring stick(CSA) so it could appear more relevant.

Importance should be measured over the course of history and what that city/region has meant to the USA. In this case "The Bay Area" is a resounding #3 behind Philadelphia and Boston.
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Old 03-05-2011, 07:43 AM
 
Location: The City
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I need to circle back on this one but will say for the time being that these three are all very close; an argument can be made for any of the three.

Also based on the CSA recs and potentially the MSA; Mercer and hightstown are back.

What that means

1 - 400K in population
2 - 30 Billion in GDP
3 - 24 Billion in Income
4 - Additional transit ridership
5 - Princeton along with Penn
6 - Hightstown/Princeton; another top 25 tech center in the US; along with Philly and Reading in certain aspects of Tech (edison NJ is right next door but still in the NYC realm with th change)
7 - Further solidification of Pharm activities
8 - Oh with Mercer is likely Hnterdon County NJ (and Lambertville a personal favorite of mine) - the wealthiest in the Country

Just a few reasons we have bitched about Mercer

but more to come
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Old 03-05-2011, 07:45 AM
 
Location: The City
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San Francisco-Boston-Philadlephia? Which one is most important?


Importance probably shouldnt be measured by arbitrary geographical boundaries which can pad + skew economic statistics towards your city/region. Nobody does this better than the public relations machine that is the "Bay Area". Who along with Wash-Bal invented a new economic measuring stick(CSA) so it could appear more relevant.

Importance should be measured over the course of history and what that city/region has meant to the USA. In this case "The Bay Area" is a resounding #3 behind Philadelphia and Boston.

Actually there is no way it would be a resounding #3; honestly I think all could lay claim and the Bay has many reasons to claim the #5 spot. Non are resoundingly ahead or behind any of the others in this comparison
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Old 03-05-2011, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Long Beach
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Philly/NJ/NYC CSA- 30mil
Boston- 7.6mil
Bay Area-74.mil
Haha, keep trying buddy!

Philly would be the largest suburb in the US. NYC has what, 6 times the population. Don't get ahead of yourself.
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Old 03-05-2011, 07:57 AM
 
Location: NY/FL
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All very close but IMO Boston has the best combo of history, power, and education of the three but all do well across the board. UPenn and Stanford are no slouch but MIT, Brown, Harvard are an impressive line up for Boston arguably the top in the world with Boston also being a major center for banking, finance, nanotech, biotech, high tech, and imports. Your right size wont make a cut or less with this comparison by economy or by metro population, all very close together.
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Old 03-05-2011, 08:07 AM
 
Location: Villanova Pa.
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Actually there is no way it would be a resounding #3; honestly I think all could lay claim and the Bay has many reasons to claim the #5 spot. Non are resoundingly ahead or behind any of the others in this comparison
Over the course of history of the USA? Absolutely it is.

If you want to play the shell game of compiling economic statistics "The Bay Area" fares very well and it should considering the linear sprawlage of its CSA.

Based on " Most Important" region concerning key aspects and historical milestones of what that region has meant to USA over time? SF trails Philadelphia and Boston by a healthy deficit.

No disrepect to the Bay Area but its accomplishments are fairly superficial and shallow compared to Boston and Philadelphia. Philadelphias in particular with its enormous manufacturing might who along with NYC basically built this country.
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Old 03-05-2011, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Seattle Area
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San Francisco-Boston-Philadlephia? Which one is most important?


Importance probably shouldnt be measured by arbitrary geographical boundaries which can pad + skew economic statistics towards your city/region. Nobody does this better than the public relations machine that is the "Bay Area". Who along with Wash-Bal invented a new economic measuring stick(CSA) so it could appear more relevant.

Importance should be measured over the course of history and what that city/region has meant to the USA. In this case "The Bay Area" is a resounding #3 behind Philadelphia and Boston.
I would have to disagree because by this definition Rome would be the most important city in the world.
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Old 03-05-2011, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Villanova Pa.
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BTW: Tell me again what your point in this thread is? I know you say you want to "learn" more about the East Coast, but I can't help but feel that you're trying to bolster your love of SF because there's something about it that makes you feel insecure. I may be totally wrong, but this thread has a strident quality to it - like you spent way too much time compiling your "facts".

You got it.

Its like Biff Del Vecchio Rockefeller the 6th sponging on his trust fund, slacking poolside in South Beach, telling the hot chick hes the richest punk on the block.


Respect your peers.In this case the cities that made you. Without Philadlephia and Bostons important political contributions to this nation, who knows, The Bay Area could be a drug ravaged northern outpost of Tijuana or Juarez.
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Old 03-05-2011, 08:28 AM
 
Location: NY/FL
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What does this have anything to do with how important a place is?
Why does California need 2 cities being the best of them all? LA is all California could ask for. You can throw all the stats you want but SF cant compare to Philly or Boston and before you throw a fit history does matter even today. Historical significance cant be measured by stats but by events that built this country and for a city to claim power has to have the economy, history, education, name, and backbone. The gold rush doesnt count as exclusive history, most of those early settlers going out west during the gold rush came from the northeast
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