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View Poll Results: Which one is the most important?
Bay Area 286 58.37%
Boston 90 18.37%
Philadelphia 93 18.98%
Confused 21 4.29%
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Old 10-11-2011, 07:03 PM
 
Location: The Bay
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Agree, unfair comparison unless the OP was comparing metros.


He means "why is a west coast area being compared to anywhere on the holy east coast and winning? BLASPHEMY!"
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Old 10-11-2011, 08:54 PM
 
Location: a bar
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Your sense of knowledge matches your username. Baltimore has Johns Hopkins and University of Maryland Medical Center. Philly has the U-Penn system which includes the oldest hospitals in the country. Boston has Massachusettes General with Harvard Medical, which is of course a top research institution as well.
BMore and Philly certainly "match" Boston in the health care facility department, if not surpassing it.
Add to that Boston's Brigham and Woman's, Beth Isreal Deaconess, Lahey, Boston Medical and Dana-Farber. Boston clearly has the upper hand in the medical field.
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Old 10-11-2011, 09:09 PM
 
Location: The City
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Add to that Boston's Brigham and Woman's, Beth Isreal Deaconess, Lahey, Boston Medical and Dana-Farber. Boston clearly has the upper hand in the medical field.

Honestly I have seen this notion many times and you assertion of not even close is absolutely laughable

So in Philly add to Penn Jefferson, Einstein, Hanhneman, Temple, Fox Chase, CHOP (yes ranked higher (well is number 1 for the 18th consectutive year i believe) than your beloved and EXCELLENT Boston Childrens which typically is ranked behind CHOP in most categories), Wills Eye, Cooper, CIA, Crozier-Chester, A.I. Dupont Childrens. not mention many other regional excellent facilities

Look I agree Boston has tremendous Hospitals but so does Philly and to suggest not even close makes you sound either extremely biased, myopic or just flat out uninformed.
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Old 10-11-2011, 09:45 PM
 
Location: Denver
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Your sense of knowledge matches your username. Baltimore has Johns Hopkins and University of Maryland Medical Center. Philly has the U-Penn system which includes the oldest hospitals in the country. Boston has Massachusettes General with Harvard Medical, which is of course a top research institution as well.
BMore and Philly certainly "match" Boston in the health care facility department, if not surpassing it.
Those cities don't match--let alone surpass--Boston's medical community/facilities. What people seem to forget is that there is far more to Boston's medical community than Mass General. It's currently ranked as the #2 overall hospital in the country behind Johns Hopkins...but Boston's Brigham & Women's Hospital is also ranked #8 on the Honor Roll.

Overall, Boston's medical community includes Mass General Hospital, Brigham & Women's, Dana Farber Cancer, Joslin Diabetes, Beth Israel Deaconess, Spaulding Rehab, Mass Ear & Eye, Children's Hospital Boston (it should be noted that it's consistently tied with Philadelphia as the #1 children's hospital in the world), the Lahey Clinic, Boston Medical Center, and Tufts Medical Center, among others.

I don't think that many will argue that Johns Hopkins is the most prestigious individual clinic in the world...but Boston's collection is easily the most prestigious.

If we take a look at NIH (National Institutes of Health) Funding for 2010, then you'll see Boston is far, far ahead.

Boston: $1,731,605,006
Baltimore: $797,320,888
Philadelphia: $770,299,254

So, combined they account for $1,567,620,142...still a solid $150,000,000+ short of Boston.

If we want to include Cambridge, which is directly across the river from Boston, the number increases to $2,066,531,116...

What else is there to say?
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Old 10-11-2011, 09:58 PM
 
Location: Denver
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CHOP (yes ranked higher (well is number 1 for the 18th consectutive year i believe) than your beloved and EXCELLENT Boston Childrens which typically is ranked behind CHOP in most categories)
According to the latest US News Pediatric Hospital Rankings:

Cancer:
Boston: 1
Philadelphia: 2

Cardiology & Heart:
Boston: 1
Philadelphia: 2

Diabetes & Endocrinology:
Boston: 2
Philadelphia: 1

Gastroenterology:
Boston: 2
Philadelphia: 3

Neontalogy:
Boston: 2
Philadelphia: 1

Nephrology:
Boston: 1
Philadelphia: 4

Neurology & Neurosurgery:
Boston: 1
Philadelphia: 2

Orthopedics:
Boston: 1
Philadelphia: 2

Pulmonology:
Boston: 3
Philadelphia: 1

Urology:
Boston: 1
Philadelphia: 2

So out of 10 categories, how many times each ranked:
#1:
Boston: 6
Philadelphia: 3

#2:
Boston: 3
Philadelphia: 5

#3:
Boston: 1
Philadelphia: 1

#4:
Boston: 0
Philadelphia: 1

Average ranking
:
Boston: 1.5
Philadelphia: 2.0

NIH Funding for the respective hospitals
Philadelphia: $86,193,948
Boston: $96,381,705
So no, Children's Hospital Boston is not typically ranked behind CHOP...it's actually the opposite. Though I think it's fair to say they're equal.
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Old 10-12-2011, 06:51 PM
 
Location: New York City
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Even though Philadelphia is a better city, cant we just say boston and philly both have equally good medical centers.
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Old 10-12-2011, 06:54 PM
 
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Even though Philadelphia is a better city, cant we just say boston and philly both have equally good medical centers.
Give credit where credit is due, Boston has the best medical cluster in the World.
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Old 10-12-2011, 07:02 PM
 
Location: New York City
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Give credit where credit is due, Boston has the best medical cluster in the World.
nope.
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Old 10-12-2011, 07:03 PM
 
Location: Guangzhou, China
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nope.
That's fine. Boston still wins this one.
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Old 10-12-2011, 07:05 PM
 
Location: The City
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Give credit where credit is due, Boston has the best medical cluster in the World.

Actually again and as a consultant in healthcare/pharmaceuticals i am not sure that your claim is truly clear cut. Boston is among the tops and depending on specific area of concentration or even research could be number one. Issue is though in terms of treatment and/or procedural intervention different facilities will excel.

For example if looking at the best Kidney transplant center I might say MD Andersen or a combination heart/lung I might even say Temple (also sadly very well known for gun wound trauma and often used to train emergency physicians prior to manning war front hospitals). For myelofibrosis I might say Mass General. For some complex orthopeadic devices specifically knee reconstructions Univ of Ark has some areas where it excels.

On reseacrh again the same and the amount of funds while helping the local economies also misses important attributes. There are funded programs in the psych area that could cost less than 1/100th that of genomics reseacrh and may yield far greater benefits.

Boston is a great hospital and healthcare city though I am not sure it really rises above others especially when all factors are considered.
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