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View Poll Results: Which one is the most important?
Bay Area 291 57.97%
Boston 92 18.33%
Philadelphia 98 19.52%
Confused 21 4.18%
Voters: 502. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-02-2012, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Boston Metrowest (via the Philly area)
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The Philadelphia region doesnt appear to have the cohesion of its peers. Perhaps due to it being spread out between 3 different states. Lots of conflicting political interests in which states dont like sharing success. IMO this has hurt Philadelphia's stature nationally.
I agree completely. While political/municipal fragmentation is not uncommon in urban areas, it's particularly bad in the Philly area.

Thankfully, I think more and more political and business leaders are starting to really think on a regional level.
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Old 02-11-2012, 06:28 PM
 
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The Philadelphia region doesnt appear to have the cohesion of its peers. Perhaps due to it being spread out between 3 different states. Lots of conflicting political interests in which states dont like sharing success. IMO this has hurt Philadelphia's stature nationally.

For instance the SoCal beaches from San Clemente to Santa Barbara are unified as being part of LA, whereas the South Jersey Beaches(South of Atlantic City) are 90% comprised of metro Philly residents but NJ makes sure the world knows that this is NJ territory not Philadelphia.
It's because the majority of the metro is made up of independent municipalities that grew independent of Philadelphia, not because of it. People who aren't from here don't get that and they think it's the same as other places where the independence is only shallow and people all say "I'm from Philly" like they do elsewhere. Clearly though, people don't. If you ask somebody from Camden or Chester or even the smaller, older municipalities in Delco where they're from, they'll say their borough or city, never Philly.

Boston and other Northeast metros are similar that way, though the fact that Philadelphia and the entire metro declined and lost so much population stopped it from ever connecting the way the other metros did.

If it weren't for sports or family living in Philly, a lot of places would have no association with Philadelphia whatsoever.
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Old 03-05-2012, 04:15 AM
 
Location: NY
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Bay Area, Philly, Boston.
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Old 03-05-2012, 06:44 PM
 
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The Bay Area is multiple cities. If you want to do this then you compare the Bay Area to the Delaware Valley.
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Old 03-10-2012, 01:38 AM
 
Location: In the heights
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The Bay Area is multiple cities. If you want to do this then you compare the Bay Area to the Delaware Valley.
I'm pretty sure we're all aware that the discussion is about the metro areas. Also, Delaware Valley isn't really as coherent a unit nor as recognizable.
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Old 03-10-2012, 01:56 PM
 
Location: New York City
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I think its because it spans across 4 different states, rather than being in one state like the bay area.
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Old 03-10-2012, 02:16 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Hmm... Not surprising that the Bay Area is running away with this one but very odd that Philly is getting more votes than Boston.
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Old 03-10-2012, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Denver
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Hmm... Not surprising that the Bay Area is running away with this one but very odd that Philly is getting more votes than Boston.
Yea I believe Boston is a bit more important/powerful than Philadelphia, but oh well.
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Old 03-10-2012, 03:46 PM
 
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How is it odd that Philly is having more votes than Boston? Philadelphia is an overall better city. Big deal. I'm sure America prefers Philly over Boston anyways.
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Old 03-10-2012, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Boston Metrowest (via the Philly area)
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Yea I believe Boston is a bit more important/powerful than Philadelphia, but oh well.
"Importance" is so subjective, though. Are we talking media? Commerce? Education? Number of foreign consulates? The answer would be different depending on the topic -- not to mention scope (MSA v. CSA).

All things considered, the level of "importance" between both cities/metros is pretty negligible, while the Bay Area's importance is decidedly above both cities (only when speaking of CSA).
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