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Nothing against Boston, but people seem to forget that at the time of the revolution Boston was a backward puritanistic hell-hole where people we're being burned at the stake. They we're even more religously conservative than England, and fought them tooth and nail for the right to have basically no human rights. The Quakers of Philly, on the other hand, were ahead of their time with their live and let live stance on human rights, and thus sought to start a country based on the belief that all men are created equal, regardless of religion. Boston did fight the British, but for the opposite reason as Philly, even today, this is why Philly is more colorful and diverse, than Boston, which practically has the demographics of Ireland.
So lets put the debate to rest. Philadelphia is the birthplace of America.
Last edited by killakoolaide; 03-06-2011 at 04:14 AM..
Nothing against Boston, but people seem to forget that at the time of the revolution Boston was a backward puritanistic hell-hole where people we're being burned at the stake. They we're even more religously conservative than England, and fought them tooth and nail for the right to have basically no human rights. The Quakers of Philly, on the other hand, were ahead of their time with their live and let live stance on human rights, and thus sought to start a country based on the belief that all men are created equal, regardless of religion. Boston did fight the British, but for the opposite reason as Philly, even today, this is why Philly is more colorful and diverse, than Boston, which practically has the demographics of Ireland.
So lets put the debate to rest. Philadelphia is the birthplace of America.
Correction: Back then, the Quakers had a live and let live stance. Now, there's plenty of branches of the Quakers that are directly affiliated with the KKK.
But the rest of your point is absolutely correct, and Boston is still a pretty racist town.
Boston's probably the most racist big city in the NE.
Evidence please? Or are you living in the past with everyone else? I am a black immigrant living in Boston and find it one of the most accepting cities I have lived in around the globe. I would like to hear some evidence.
After a quick glance out of the 3 cities mentioned, Philadelphia has the best representation of blacks in government (7 city councilors) followed by Boston (3 of the 11 are black) and then last SF with only one in the entire city council.
Boston has the highest median income of black residents at 33,420, followed by SF 31,080 and Philadelphia at 26,728.
So Boston has the highest median income of black families and a strong representation of Blacks in the City council and racism is strongest here?
Last edited by Backayard; 03-06-2011 at 08:14 AM..
Correction: Back then, the Quakers had a live and let live stance. Now, there's plenty of branches of the Quakers that are directly affiliated with the KKK.
Looks like someone's taking the Fox News approach of making unsubstantiated statements that support their agenda. I'll play Jon Stewart here and share some facts.
Quakers not only did not have a "live and let live stance", they have always been and remain at the forefront of social change, sometimes referrred to as the "quiet rebels." The Quakers have always been a society that lives their faith through their actions as opposed to simply professing it. Their first foray into social justice was when their members (men and women) actually went to live in the prison hellholes of England to bring relief to the prisoners while drawing attention to the inhumane conditions. A list of some of the other social justice movements Quakers were among the first to involve themselves with include equal rights for women, fair dealings with native Americans when Penn arrived in Philadelphia (contrast that with the Manhattan deal of trinkets and beads), abolition of slavery and running the underground railroad, opposition to the Vietnam war and abolition of the death penalty. In more recent years, Quakers performed same gender marriages years before any state offered even civil unions.
Looks like someone's taking the Fox News approach of making unsubstantiated statements that support their agenda. I'll play Jon Stewart here and share some facts.
Quakers not only did not have a "live and let live stance", they have always been and remain at the forefront of social change, sometimes referrred to as the "quiet rebels." The Quakers have always been a society that lives their faith through their actions as opposed to simply professing it. Their first foray into social justice was when their members (men and women) actually went to live in the prison hellholes of England to bring relief to the prisoners while drawing attention to the inhumane conditions. A list of some of the other social justice movements Quakers were among the first to involve themselves with include equal rights for women, fair dealings with native Americans when Penn arrived in Philadelphia (contrast that with the Manhattan deal of trinkets and beads), abolition of slavery and running the underground railroad, opposition to the Vietnam war and abolition of the death penalty. In more recent years, Quakers performed same gender marriages years before any state offered even civil unions.
Evidence please? Or are you living in the past with everyone else? I am a black immigrant living in Boston and find it one of the most accepting cities I have lived in around the globe. I would like to hear some evidence.
After a quick glance out of the 3 cities mentioned, Philadelphia has the best representation of blacks in government (7 city councilors) followed by Boston (3 of the 11 are black) and then last SF with only one in the entire city council.
Boston has the highest median income of black residents at 33,420, followed by SF 31,080 and Philadelphia at 26,728.
So Boston has the highest median income of black families and a strong representation of Blacks in the City council and racism is strongest here?
San Francisco is racist towards blacks too. What's your point?
rofl... is that what's in the DNA of Philadelphia?
That's in Indiana, and says nothing at all about Quaker affiliation. Not real Quakers.
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