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View Poll Results: Which one is the most important?
Bay Area 291 57.85%
Boston 93 18.49%
Philadelphia 98 19.48%
Confused 21 4.17%
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Old 03-06-2011, 12:36 PM
 
Location: The Bay
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That's in Indiana, and says nothing at all about Quaker affiliation. Not real Quakers.

So the Indiana Friends weren't real Quakers because they're affiliated with the KKK? Richard Nixon's branch in Riverside weren't real Quakers despite their connections to the KKK in Orange County? Have anything to back that up other than you being defensive?
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Old 03-06-2011, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Boston Metrowest (via the Philly area)
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So the Indiana Friends weren't real Quakers because they're affiliated with the KKK? Richard Nixon's branch in Riverside weren't real Quakers despite their connections to the KKK in Orange County? Have anything to back that up other than you being defensive?
This is the first I've ever heard of any connection between Quakers and the KKK (which is questionable, at best). However, a handful of practicing Quakers that may have been park of KKK at one time certainly does not mean that it is in any way endorsed by the denomination. Equality between all races has long been a tenant of Quaker beliefs, so the very thought of racial superiority among those of the Aryan race would be completely antithetical to Quaker religious principles. I think that's what killalkoolaide was getting at by saying this branch was not comprised of true Quakers, per the "Testimony of equality":

"Testimony of equality is a shorthand description of the action generally taken by members of the Religious Society of Friends (Quakers) towards equality, arising from Friends' belief that all people are created equal in the eyes of God. The word testimony describes the way that Friends testify or bear witness to their beliefs in their everyday life. A testimony is therefore not a belief, but is committed action arising out of Friends' religious experience. Testimony to equality has included Quakers participating in actions that promote the equality of the sexes and the racial equality, as well as other classifications of people."

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I'm sure you could find KKK members of every Christian denomination, as contradictory as that may be for their denominational theology.

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Old 03-06-2011, 01:39 PM
 
Location: The City
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Ive never claimed to have invented the internet, only to own it.

Actually some of the highest revenue producers via the web are porn from LA, Pharmaceuticals from everywhere and book sales - though there are many from the bay - itunes is a very high seller as well among others - there is really no single dominant focre; maybe in web genres
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Old 03-06-2011, 01:48 PM
 
Location: The Bay
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This is the first I've ever heard of any connection between Quakers and the KKK (which is questionable, at best). However, a handful of practicing Quakers that may have been park of KKK at one time certainly does not mean that it is in any way endorsed by the religion. Equality between all races has long been a tenant of Quaker belief, so the very thought of racial superiority among those of the Aryan race would be completely antithetical to Quaker religious principles. I think that's what killalkoolaide was getting at by saying this branch was not comprised of true Quakers, per the "Testimony of equality":

"Testimony of equality is a shorthand description of the action generally taken by members of the Religious Society of Friends (Quakers) towards equality, arising from Friends' belief that all people are created equal in the eyes of God. The word testimony describes the way that Friends testify or bear witness to their beliefs in their everyday life. A testimony is therefore not a belief, but is committed action arising out of Friends' religious experience. Testimony to equality has included Quakers participating in actions that promote the equality of the sexes and the racial equality, as well as other classifications of people."

Testimony of Equality - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'm sure you could find KKK members of every Christian denomination, as contradictory as that may be for their denominational theology.

Quakerism in the 1700's and early 1800's was a completely different animal than Quakerism in the early and mid 1900's. Richard Nixon is a prime example of what Quakerism became in the 1900's.
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Old 03-06-2011, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Center City
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You've obviously never heard of Daisy Douglas Barr or what the Quakers have been up to recently.

Daisey Douglas Barr - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


rofl... is that what's in the DNA of Philadelphia?
Quaker "churches" split off from the original Quakers, i.e., the society founded by George Fox which went onto win the Nobel Peace Prize. The original Friends do not worship in churches, but instead have unprogrammed worship in meeting houses. There is a small sect of Fiends who are conservative who went onto form churches. While most of these Quaker churches are simply more fundamentalist than unprogrammed Friends, they are not extreme as this person is. Judging all Quakers by the actions of a few repugnant individuals who call themselves Quaker is no different than judging all Christians by the actions of the Westboro Baptist Church of Topeka which pickets soldier's funerals.

You should probably spend some time researching this topic more, rather than making unfounded assertions that promote your opinion.
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Old 03-06-2011, 01:53 PM
 
Location: The Bay
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Quaker "churches" split off from the original Quakers, i.e., the society founded by George Fox which went onto win the Nobel Peace Prize. The original Friends do not worship in churches, but instead have unprogrammed worship in meeting houses. There is a small sect of Fiends who are conservative who went onto form churches. While most of these Quaker churches are simply more fundamentalist than unprogrammed Friends, they are not extreme as this person is. Judging all Quakers by the actions of a few repugnant individuals who call themselves Quaker is no different than judging all Christians by the actions of the Westboro Baptist Church of Topeka which pickets soldier's funerals.

What's your explanation for the likes of Richard Nixon? It was well known he was a Quaker, and it eventually became well known that he was a racist, as was his Quaker sect.
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Old 03-06-2011, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Center City
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What's your explanation for the likes of Richard Nixon? It was well known he was a Quaker, and it eventually became well known that he was a racist, as was his Quaker sect.
Its not my job to defend Richard Nixon. Do you judge an entire society by the actions of a single individual. If so, as a Californian, what does it say about the people of your state that you elected him to Congress and the Senate?
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Old 03-06-2011, 02:32 PM
 
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Economic Output (GDP): Given the same parameters as the Bay Area nad Boston, Philly by far

Total Personal Income: IDK, probably Philly again though.

History: Philly, Boston,_____________________________________SanFra n

Location: Philly again, by far.

Niche Industries: I don't think any one niche is particularily superior to the other in regards to these regions

Economy (diversity & variance): Philly, Boston, SanFran

Finance: Boston, SanFran, Philly

Anything else you can come up with (absent from the list): It's hard for Boston and SanFran to truely compete considering that at the same CSA land area that the Bay Area and Boston get, Philly is beyond overlapping with NYC, as starnge as it may sound to some, having a discussion about Philly with complete disregard to it's proximity to NYC is akin to having a discussion about Bmore with no consideration to DC, or San Jose, with no consideration to SanFran. By far the largest metro(NYC) less than a hundred miles from a top 5 metro(Philly) means something, and the connectivity is definitley there.
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Old 03-06-2011, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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Location definitely goes to the Bay Area (now at least) in present times.
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Old 03-06-2011, 02:45 PM
 
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Location definitely goes to the Bay Area (now at least) in present times.
How do you figure? Once you leave the Bay Area your pretty much in the middle of nowhere, when you leave the Delaware Valley your either in the NYC metro, or DMV.
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