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View Poll Results: Which one is the most important?
Bay Area 291 57.85%
Boston 93 18.49%
Philadelphia 98 19.48%
Confused 21 4.17%
Voters: 503. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-13-2016, 11:00 AM
 
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The OP asked about importance. All three areas are large US metros and important to those who live in them. On the global stage Philly is not as prominent as Boston or SF.


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Old 03-13-2016, 03:51 PM
 
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The OP asked about importance. All three areas are large US metros and important to those who live in them. On the global stage Philly is not as prominent as Boston or SF.


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The results of the poll are very telling, but I would swap Boston & Philly.
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Old 03-21-2016, 11:05 PM
 
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Philly just has sooooooo much room to grow vs SF and Because Boston won't incorporate, despite that we're adding a ton of sq feet (Boston), we're almost out of land. We're basically, building on our last parcels now.

The details are covered in the comments section here... Boston Wants Suggestions About What It Should Look Like in the Next 15 Years - Curbed Boston

Because of it's small land mass and considerable infill, mid-rise and highrise construction, Boston is 2nd in the U.S. (behind New York) in inner-city density (actually by a very comfortable margin) ahead of Chicago, Houston, Philly, San Francisco and DC... Philly is ~23% bigger city population but an asston bigger in incorporated land area.

Boston is up there with San Francisco and Philly in construction. i heard an architect saying that in total infill + mid-rise + highrise going, Boston is 2nd only to New York in foreign investment in construction for the current cycle, slightly edging out Chicago, Philly, San Francisco, DC, Miami, and Houston.

you can't really get the full picture from this list.... because we have so much high sq ft construction right now on height restricted parcels near the airport or on shade restricted green spaces on our long 'emerald necklace,' parks and greenways... But our midrise and low rise construction is fairly massive. i'm working on my +180' list, but here's a partial list of +280 feet..... There are also many more highrises in the LOI stage not listed here.....

update/s;

1 Bromfield Street/Midwood Investment formal announcement ~31March.
111 Federal St/Winthrop Sq moving forward. BRA will select a the winning development team by June/Permitting by end of the year.
1 Trinity getting closer to startup, oh and
a 4th ~500 tower at Boston Garden/North Station!
the mass.gov is pushing the sale of 5.5 acre Southbay DOT/Kneeland Street parcel,

approved, +/- Boston.gov involvement but delayed....

1. South Station Tower; 621 feet a few years out w/ .gov South Station re-do, Post Office relocation + track expansion...
2. Harbor Garage/Don Chiofaro 54 stories 600 feet/900,000 sq ft. down from 1.3M sq ft, Chiofaro and Prudential both in agreement needing a minimum of 1.1~1.2M sq feet to move forward w/ one 600' tower. Don does 'iconic'. hopefully a compromise can be reached in the near future.

proposed, LOI, or TBA presently;

1. 1 Bromfield Street/Midwood Investment 59 stories 710 feet roof (diagonally across from Millenium Tower. formal announcement coming by ~31Mar/2Apr.
2. BACK BAY STATION this one was over-hyped imo; look for 2 towers in the 380~490 foot range.
3. 45 Worthington/Equity Residential 35 stories ~387 feet LOI
4. Tremont Crossing Tower #1 30 stories 367 feet.
5. 51 High Street 29 stories 355 feet.
6. Tremont Crossing Tower #2 27 stories 335 feet.
7. 436-440 Atlantic Ave/J Hook Lobster tower 24 stories 307 feet.
8. 533 Washington St/Canvas (high aspect ratio/thin condo tower) 30 stories 305 feet. LOI
9. Tremont Crossing Tower #3 20 stories 282 feet.

approved, +/- .gov/on schedule, under-construction, topped, +/- cladding or completed;

1. 111 Federal Street/Winthrop Garage 740-780 feet +.gov BRA gave guidance for +700~780 rfp sent ; going max FAA limit for Winthrop Square. BRA to select winning development team by June/Permitting by end of the year. "Time is of the essence." -in a hurry to build the tallest building since 1971? this is Boston.

2. 1 Dalton Street/Four Seasons 61 stories 755 Feet (under construction)

3. Millennium Tower 60 stories 685 feet roof tip (topped + cladding completed)

4. Copley Place Tower 52 stories 626 feet roof (under-construction)

5. Govt Center (cylindrical) office tower 43 stories + tall mech screen/crown spire ~647' roof tip... construction staggered after the first tower)

6. Govt Center residential tower 45 stories ~547 feet at the roof (site prep has begun).

7. TD Garden Tower 1 (office) ~21 stories over the podium ~510 feet roof (under construction 1-27-2016)

8. TD Garden Point 2 (resident tower) 45 stories 495 feet roof (under construction 1-27-2016)

9. TD Garden Garage/Equity Residential 44 stories 485 feet roof (pre-construction phase)

10. Avalon North Station/121 Nashua Street 38 stories 450 feet roof (topped w/cladding ~3 weeks)

11. Atlantic Wharf 32 stories 436 feet roof (full occupancy in 2012)

12. 40 Trinity Place 33 stories 400 feet roof (pre-construction)

13. 380 Stewart Street/John Hancock Tower #3 26 stories 390 feet roof tip (approved).

14. The Pierce Fenway 30 stories 367 feet roof (under construction)

15. 45 Stewart St/AVA Theatre District 29 stories 336 feet (2015)

16. Govt Center #3 29 stories ~336 feet (approved ~2 years away)

17. Radian Boston 26 stories 300 feet (2014)

18. The Kensington Apartments 27 stories 299 feet (2013)

19. 157 Berkeley Street/Liberty Mutual 22 stories 290 feet (2013)

20. 30 Dalton 24 stories 286 feet (cladding Jan 2016)

Boston in 4-6 years.... Left to right, TD Residential, Avalon, GG, GCG 1 & 2, 1 Bromfield St (to the immediate left of Millennium Tower),
111 Federal, Copley Sq (to the right of the JHT), and 1 Dalton (to the right of the 'Pru').

missing; Harbor Garage, South Station, 40 Trinity, 380 Stewart St.... original photo credit: DHZ22/ArchBoston....
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Old 03-22-2016, 12:11 PM
 
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I would pick Boston. It's expensive, but not as bad as San Francisco/San Jose. I just couldn't live in Philly, not matter what.
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Old 03-22-2016, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Center City, Philadelphia
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^this guy lol.. what did you talk to two "philadelphians", give it a rest.
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Old 03-22-2016, 01:09 PM
 
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^this guy lol.. what did you talk to two "philadelphians", give it a rest.
Although my husband and I chose to live in Philly, I can understand other people having different preferences.
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Old 03-22-2016, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Center City, Philadelphia
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Although my husband and I chose to live in Philly, I can understand other people having different preferences.
so I chose to live here too? most people I talk to on an average day are pretty laid back and friendly.

I gotta lay off the coffee some afternoons.

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Old 03-23-2016, 11:41 AM
 
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Bay Area probably, then Philadelphia, then Boston.

NY Times recently did an article on how Boston isn't a "fun" city with their archaic drinking laws and scrapping the late-night T service.

This article nails it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/18/us...vice.html?_r=0
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Old 03-23-2016, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Boston
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NY Times recently did an article on how Boston isn't a "fun" city with their archaic drinking laws and scrapping the late-night T service.
What does that have to do with being important?

Las Vegas is more fun than San Francisco, but I wouldn't say it's more important.
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Old 03-23-2016, 12:00 PM
 
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What does that have to do with being important?

Las Vegas is more fun than San Francisco, but I wouldn't say it's more important.

I don't know about you but I like to enjoy myself, so yes, entertainment options definitely factor in for me.

Boston is boring in comparison.
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