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View Poll Results: I feel that_________has the best cities.
Virginia 200 50.25%
North Carolina 198 49.75%
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Old 05-19-2010, 09:57 PM
 
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ok lets agree to disagree thanks for being polite
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Old 05-19-2010, 10:27 PM
 
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No problem; no need to stop being cordial.
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Old 05-19-2010, 10:52 PM
 
Location: Jersey City
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U are obviously from va... maps of the us dont even consider va the south, its mid atlantic... , u go to georgia or sc and they condsider va a yankee state... look at nova.. lol
What makes Georgians or South Carolinians the authority on Virginia's identity? I think if a majority of Virginians say they're southern, who's to say they're not??

Spanish moss is not a requirement. Inland areas of ALL southern states lack Spanish moss.

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Virginia Beach Spanish Moss...

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That's not Virginia Beach. 1., there's too much Spanish moss for it to be Va Beach. I've seen some Spanish moss in VB, but it's very sparse and hard to find. 2., there's a palm tree, 3., the caption says it was taken in "Marion County" which, wherever that is, is not in Va Beach.

Your points are correct, though. Virginia has these things (even though they're not prerequisites for being southern anyway).
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Old 05-20-2010, 03:55 PM
 
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So Virginia being/not being Southern has what to do with its cities being better?
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Old 05-21-2010, 01:21 PM
 
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That's not Virginia Beach. 1., there's too much Spanish moss for it to be Va Beach. I've seen some Spanish moss in VB, but it's very sparse and hard to find. 2., there's a palm tree, 3., the caption says it was taken in "Marion County" which, wherever that is, is not in Va Beach.

Your points are correct, though. Virginia has these things (even though they're not prerequisites for being southern anyway).
Ok, my apoligies if it isn't VA Beach - the information on flickr said that it was...but I've seen that much moss in the Tidewater area on several occasions.

I definitely agree that moss and cotton don't define the South, but my post was in response to one that claimed that they do define it - and that Virginia had none of either.
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Old 05-21-2010, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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So Virginia being/not being Southern has what to do with its cities being better?
We in NOVA don't consider ourselves southern. VA is more southern-lite. I'd call VA Mid-Atlantic since our "deep south friends" don't like to group us in with the rest of the southern states. But any state that fought for slavery and was under the Mason-Dixon line is "southern" in my defintion. Even parts of Maryland are southern-lite. Just go to the eastern shore.

But anyway, VA cities are better. Especially us in the DC suburbs. We have the nation's capital and nothing in NC can compare to that.
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Old 05-21-2010, 09:42 PM
 
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But anyway, VA cities are better. Especially us in the DC suburbs. We have the nation's capital and nothing in NC can compare to that.
The nation's capital isn't in VA. It's in the District of Columbia. For the purposes of this argument, since it is about the cities in each state, NoVA counts but the District itself is a separate entity.
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Old 05-22-2010, 01:29 AM
 
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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North Carolina.
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Old 05-22-2010, 05:17 PM
 
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We in NOVA don't consider ourselves southern. VA is more southern-lite. I'd call VA Mid-Atlantic since our "deep south friends" don't like to group us in with the rest of the southern states. But any state that fought for slavery and was under the Mason-Dixon line is "southern" in my defintion. Even parts of Maryland are southern-lite. Just go to the eastern shore.

But anyway, VA cities are better. Especially us in the DC suburbs. We have the nation's capital and nothing in NC can compare to that.
Don't ya just love people who feel the need to speak for everyone?

Your "deep south friends" in the "rest of the southern states" have no problem including Virginia in the South (see, I can do it too!). The problem seems to be that some in Virginia are strangely adamant and defensive about not being southern. It's certainly nothing to be ashamed of in 2010.
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Old 05-22-2010, 06:00 PM
 
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I still don't get the discussion of whether or not VA is Southern matters to the debate of whether or not its cities are better. Unless we say that southern cities aren't that good, then I see. But, I think the fact that NC cities aren't dependent on another city for their prominence says a lot.
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