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View Poll Results: I feel that_________has the best cities.
Virginia 200 50.25%
North Carolina 198 49.75%
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Old 04-24-2009, 03:48 PM
 
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I pick NC cities. I actually think this is a great comparison. VA does have mainly three major metro areas: NoVa, Richmond, and Hampton Roads. IMO NoVa is a giant suburb of D.C. and due to height restrictions in D.C. it is the office park area. Norfolk is the real city in the Hampton Roads even though it has a smaller city proper than Va Beach. Plus the Hampton Roads is more unique than many metros in the U.S. That area really doesn't have a dominant city, and each city shares an identity with the area, but is still its own unique area. I don't know of any other region in the US that has 7 cities that are relatively big and share an identity. That being said, the only city worth comparing is Richmond. Richmond is nice and decent, but IMO doesn't compare one bit to Charlotte.

Charlotte is truly growing and expanding and is gaining more and more world class recognition. The RTP has a collection of some of the smartest people in the world, plus it rules college basketball. The Triad is actually a pretty happening place and has some elements of both Charlotte and RTP.

As far as someone talking about the Piedmont cities are boring I have to strongly disagree. The may not have been to Charlotte lately. The night scene, from what I hear, is crazy fun! We just added a movie theatre and a bowling alley in the heart of our downtown district. Plus we another area called Southend which has a nice collection of art galleries. Then there is NoDa which has a happening night scene with concerts and whatnot. I am not saying VA cities don't have these, I just wanted to inform the posters that Charlotte, as well as other NC cities have them too. The close proximity of the Piedmont Cities actually has made this region to have one of the largest MTAs in the country. Just a little FYI.
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Old 04-29-2009, 01:53 AM
 
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As someone who grew up less than one mile from the Virginia border (Bristol), I favor Virginia more. Also a good number of my relatives are from Virginia and still live there. I think your average small town in Virginia is cleaner and more well-kept than similiar places in North Carolina. Virginia's larger cities are more like real cities with larger population densities. Virginia schools tend to rank higher too.

I like North Carolina and have relatives there, but there's something about the state that disagrees with me. I just don't know what it is.
Population Density Comparison:

Norfolk: 4,300/sq.mi.
Richmond: 3,200/sq.mi.
Roanoke: 2,200/sq.mi.
Virginia Beach: 1,700/sq.mi.

Raleigh: 3,300/sq.mi.
Charlotte: 2,500/sq.mi.
Durham: 2,300/sq.mi.
Greensboro: 2,100 sq.mi.


North Carolina simply has more cities of a decent size...
600,000+...Charlotte
400,000+...Raleigh
200,000+...Greensboro, Durham, Winston-Salem, Fayetteville
100,000+...Asheville, High Point, Wilmington, Cary
50,000-100,000...Gastonia, Greenville, Hickory, Jacksonville, Burlington, Chapel Hill, Concord, Wilson, Rocky Mount, Kannapolis

Compared to Virginia...
600,000+...none
400,000+...Virginia Beach
200,000+...Richmond, Norfolk, Newport News, Chesapeake
100,000+...Hampton, Portsmouth, Alexandria, Roanoke
50,000-100,000...Suffolk, Lynchburg, Danville, Charlottesville, Arlington, Reston



Virginia schools "rank higher"? You'll have to specify...which schools?
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Old 04-29-2009, 02:22 AM
 
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I pick NC cities. I actually think this is a great comparison. VA does have mainly three major metro areas: NoVa, Richmond, and Hampton Roads. IMO NoVa is a giant suburb of D.C. and due to height restrictions in D.C. it is the office park area. Norfolk is the real city in the Hampton Roads even though it has a smaller city proper than Va Beach. Plus the Hampton Roads is more unique than many metros in the U.S. That area really doesn't have a dominant city, and each city shares an identity with the area, but is still its own unique area. I don't know of any other region in the US that has 7 cities that are relatively big and share an identity. That being said, the only city worth comparing is Richmond. Richmond is nice and decent, but IMO doesn't compare one bit to Charlotte.

Charlotte is truly growing and expanding and is gaining more and more world class recognition. The RTP has a collection of some of the smartest people in the world, plus it rules college basketball. The Triad is actually a pretty happening place and has some elements of both Charlotte and RTP.

As far as someone talking about the Piedmont cities are boring I have to strongly disagree. The may not have been to Charlotte lately. The night scene, from what I hear, is crazy fun! We just added a movie theatre and a bowling alley in the heart of our downtown district. Plus we another area called Southend which has a nice collection of art galleries. Then there is NoDa which has a happening night scene with concerts and whatnot. I am not saying VA cities don't have these, I just wanted to inform the posters that Charlotte, as well as other NC cities have them too. The close proximity of the Piedmont Cities actually has made this region to have one of the largest MTAs in the country. Just a little FYI.

The Triad's major advantage is its historical element...neither Raleigh nor Charlotte have a comparable level of historic preservation and/or historic significance to that of Winston-Salem and Greensboro. The Triad cities really should capitalize on this moreso than they already do...

Winston-Salem is also well-known for the Arts....several museums, live theater, live music, festivals, N.C. School of the Arts, lots of galleries, a Downtown Arts District, the W-S symphony, Piedmont Opera, etc...and it is home to one of the Big Four Universities - Wake Forest.

Each Triad city has seen it's major industry falter in recent years...Furniture, Tobacco, Textiles, Insurance, and Banking. This caused some stagnation in the growth of the cities compared to others in N.C., but each one has made comeback. Greensboro and Winston-Salem have diversified fairly well with the biotech research parks, Volvo, Dell, Honda, FedEx, healthcare, food services, etc.
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Old 04-29-2009, 11:07 PM
 
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The Triad's major advantage is its historical element...neither Raleigh nor Charlotte have a comparable level of historic preservation and/or historic significance to that of Winston-Salem and Greensboro. The Triad cities really should capitalize on this moreso than they already do...
I'll give you Winston-Salem on this by a landslide, but not Greensboro. Charlotte definitely wins on history and even historic preservation when compared to Greensboro, because, as far as I know, it's always been larger than Greensboro and more important (except for that time Greensboro became the de facto capital of the Confederacy for a brief spell).
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Old 04-30-2009, 01:34 AM
 
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I'll give you Winston-Salem on this by a landslide, but not Greensboro. Charlotte definitely wins on history and even historic preservation when compared to Greensboro, because, as far as I know, it's always been larger than Greensboro and more important (except for that time Greensboro became the de facto capital of the Confederacy for a brief spell).
Note that I didn't try to say Greensboro was ever larger than Charlotte...although it got close to matching Charlotte's population in the early 1900s. I only stated that Greensboro had done a decent job of preserving and marketing its history - moreso than Charlotte, but not as much Winston-Salem and some other N.C. cities.

Greensboro doesn't have anything comparable to Winston-Salem's historic preservation nor it's 17th century recorded history, but Greensboro's history goes back to the Revolutionary War's Battle of Guilford Courthouse and the city's namesake, American General Nathanael Greene. Guilford Courthouse National Military Park is a beautiful tribute to the battle and its heros, with many statues and memorial markers across its 125 acres. Streets such as Battleground Ave, Cornwallis Dr, Greene St, Battleground Shopping Center, etc.


The Student on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/calypsogemini/427025401/ - broken link) General Greene on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/eric_fink/3188953803/ - broken link)




Liberty on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/eric_fink/3189796488/ - broken link) Joseph Winston Statue on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tmartin/539464836/ - broken link)




http://www.flickr.com/photos/awiseman/114835007/ Statue of Nathanael Greene on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/icybrian/2815686083/ - broken link)




Guilford Courthouse National Military Park on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bmpowell/3377976278/in/set-72157615690295265/ - broken link) Three Continental Soldiers Rest Here on Flickr - Photo Sharing!



Guilford Courthouse National Military Park on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bmpowell/3377141221/in/set-72157615690295265/ - broken link) Guilford Courthouse National Military Park on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bmpowell/3377144947/in/set-72157615690295265/ - broken link)




Signers' Monument on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tmartin/539714752/in/set-72157600337190672/ - broken link) Cavalry Monument on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tmartin/539619333/in/set-72157600337190672/ - broken link)


Greensboro does have a few historically significant buildings...Blandwood Mansion (1795) was built by Governor John Morehead, a city resident, who also brought the railroad to Greensboro in 1840 - which started the city's industrial era.

File:BlandwoodMansion.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Old Greensboro Buildings, Downtown Historic District

old Greensboro on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ucumari/358370780/ - broken link)



Greensboro, NC on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rsldaw/2443296391/ - broken link) Greensboro, NC "Sit In" 1960 on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bootbearwdc/3072465891/ - broken link)



Kern Greensboro, NC on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sethgaines/3077811730/ - broken link) The Guilford Building at S Elm and Washington II on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/joelgillespie/2829222733/ - broken link)



greensboro-318-n-green on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/legeros/503792812/ - broken link) Old Guilford County Courthouse on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tom1231/2873396783/ - broken link)



Biltmore Hotel and Alley, Washington Street, Greensboro on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/joelgillespie/2879291638/in/set-72157607152647299/ - broken link) The Carolina Theatre, Greene Street, at Sunset on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/joelgillespie/3223196972/in/set-72157607152647299/ - broken link)



Downtown Greensboro on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/joelgillespie/2819731360/in/set-72157607152647299/ - broken link) Downtown Greensboro from YWCA and Friendly on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/joelgillespie/2818888153/in/set-72157607152647299/ - broken link)



"9007" Crossing Tracks at S Elm and McGee on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/joelgillespie/3167559113/in/set-72157607152647299/ - broken link) S Elm, McGee, Davie, MLKB Greensboro NC on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/joelgillespie/3237273266/in/set-72157607152647299/ - broken link)
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Old 04-30-2009, 07:10 AM
 
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I'm aware of all of those examples. I still think that, proportionately speaking, Charlotte has more (even though the city has historically not paid a lot of attention to historic preservation). That's probably because Greensboro has a relatively small urban core when compared with the rest of the city.
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Old 05-01-2009, 04:28 AM
 
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Wilmington, NC is better than Virginia Beach. People in Hampton Roads don't party anywhere near as much as in Wilmington, nor do they take food as serious (meaning making it good).
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Old 05-01-2009, 07:05 AM
 
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I'm aware of all of those examples. I still think that, proportionately speaking, Charlotte has more (even though the city has historically not paid a lot of attention to historic preservation). That's probably because Greensboro has a relatively small urban core when compared with the rest of the city.
I know that Charlotte has Dilworth, Fourth Ward, and Plaza-Midwood, but much smaller Greensboro has at least an equal amount of structures and designated areas in the historic districts of Old Greensboro, College Hill, Fisher Park, Guilford College, White Oak, Bennett College, Wafco Mills, Oak Ridge Academy, Jamestown, Summerfield, Summit Avenue, Irving Park, and the Charles B. Aycock neighborhoods. Mecklenburg County has 91 structures on the National Register of Historic Places and Guilford County has 93; Guilford County also has two listings on the National Historic Landmarks register - Blandwood Estate and Guilford Courthouse Battlefield - compared to no listings in Mecklenburg County.

There are historic structures throughout Greensboro...I used to live in this gorgeous apartment building on Tate Street in the College Hill District:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/10054722@N07/3489805273/ (broken link)
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Old 05-01-2009, 07:10 AM
 
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Wilmington, NC is better than Virginia Beach. People in Hampton Roads don't party anywhere near as much as in Wilmington, nor do they take food as serious (meaning making it good).

Wilmington is the state's best kept secret...and my favorite N.C. city. It's like N.C.'s Savannah or Charleston.
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Old 05-01-2009, 05:02 PM
 
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Are people really arguing about which city in NC is better/bigger/historic? Save that for proof that "you" (whoever "you" is suppose to be LOL!) believe NC cities are better than VA cities. Yall emabarassing NC here for crying out loud! LOL!!!!!!!!!!
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