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Old 03-18-2011, 06:21 AM
 
Location: South St Louis
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How rare is the situation where a city's suburb grows so large that it actually exceeds the main city in population? And if this happens, how would it affect the core city? Does the official name of the metro area automatically change?

The only MSA I can come up with where this may have occurred is Hampton Roads. If I'm not mistaken, Norfolk used to be the biggest city there, and then nearby Virginia Beach grew and grew until it overshadowed Norfolk in population. Now, VB comes first in the MSA's name.

Are there other examples? What other cities have suburbs that could possibly surpass the main city in population?
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Old 03-18-2011, 06:26 AM
 
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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Besides the example you used, I don't think its ever happened before. Fort Worth, Baltimore, San Jose, Oakland, Saint Paul, Fort Lauderdale, are not suburbs people, therefore them surpassing their neighbors doesn't qualify for what you're asking, I believe. In the case of Baltimore, its not even in the same metro as Washington DC, they're two distinct and independent cities, haha.
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Old 03-18-2011, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Jersey City
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That's is the only place I know of where that has happened.

There are other places where it could happen if conditions were the same as in Norfolk/Va Beach. For example, if Fairfax County, VA incorporated itself into an independent city (the same way Princess Anne County incorporated itself into the City of Virginia Beach in the '60s), it would be larger in population than Washington DC. You could therefore have a Fairfax-Washington-etc. MSA.
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Old 03-18-2011, 11:22 AM
 
Location: The City
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In aggregate virtually all suburbs surpass the population of the city; even in NYC though no single municipality would come close in that example
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Old 03-18-2011, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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In aggregate virtually all suburbs surpass the population of the city; even in NYC though no single municipality would come close in that example
That's basically it.

When we compare any principal city to the sum of its suburbs, the burbs far outsize the cities.
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Old 03-18-2011, 12:39 PM
 
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What about San Jose? It was originally a suburb and is now bigger in population than San Francisco.
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Old 03-18-2011, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC area
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I think all cities have had thier collective suburbs blow by them in population. It may not be a single incorported city but it's still a suburb.

For example, St Louis County (1 million) is a suburb of St Louis City (350k) even though the largest actual incorporated city in StL County is only 50-60k, it's one continuously developed suburb of StL.
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Old 03-18-2011, 12:49 PM
 
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Thousand Oaks (130,000) is a "suburb" of Ventura (110,000) because it's in the same county.. but really TO is a suburb of LA.
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Old 03-18-2011, 01:38 PM
 
Location: yeah
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What about San Jose? It was originally a suburb and is now bigger in population than San Francisco.
Nope.
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Old 03-18-2011, 02:16 PM
 
Location: EAST-SIDE INDIANAPOLIS
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Wouldn't alot of possible cities be ones that have failed to expand city limits, examples included St. Louis, New Orleans, Miami, Boston, San Fran, cities that have usually been around a long time but didnt expand the way say my city of indianapolis did.
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