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IMO the Norcal/Socal rivalry is one-sided. Outside of sports (Dodgers/Giants) most in Socal are oblivious to there even being a rivalry. If Norcal comes up at all down here the comments are mostly all positive.
I just the typical sibling rivalry, no-cal have a love/hate relationship with LA because
LA is richer and more famous and they hate to live under the shadow of Los Angeles and be a second tier city
that is really the only reason why angelenos don't give a rat's ass what some people think because they know LA is the top dog!
In other words, if San Francisco was an actresses
it would get dumped right out of the red carpet in the blink of an eye, and the academy would replace it with LA
Who woudln't hate that!? That's why they hate LA......... LOL
Buy you right most angelenos like SF a lot, is a nice place to visit on the weekend
buy dome sourdough bread at the Boudin bakery, eat a crab sandwich at Elliotto's
and a perfect place to take a hop to the wine country, and of course it has great scenary.
LA and SD could easily be grouped with Phoenix and Tuscon, and maybe even Albuquerque. They definitely go along with Vegas. I also consider Vegas as Southwestern, along with southern Utah and Colorado. So in my mind Southwestern cities are as follows: LA, SD, Phoenix, Tuscon, Vegas, Albuquerque, El Paso - and hey, why not throw in San Antonio to boot. If LA and SD were not in the same state as Sacramento and the Bay Area, I think more people would group it with the Southwest. Palm Springs and Death Valley are in So. Cal too. If these two areas aren't southwestern I don't know what is.
LA and SD could easily be grouped with Phoenix and Tuscon, and maybe even Albuquerque. They definitely go along with Vegas. I also consider Vegas as Southwestern, along with southern Utah and Colorado. So in my mind Southwestern cities are as follows: LA, SD, Phoenix, Tuscon, Vegas, Albuquerque, El Paso - and hey, why not throw in San Antonio to boot. If LA and SD were not in the same state as Sacramento and the Bay Area, I think more people would group it with the Southwest. Palm Springs and Death Valley are in So. Cal too. If these two areas aren't southwestern I don't know what is.
SD and LA are NOT Southwestern cities and are not in the same group with Phoenix and Tucson. I've lived in both.
SD and LA are NOT Southwestern cities and are not in the same group with Phoenix and Tucson. I've lived in both.
So have I. I respectfully disagree. I don't know why so many want to say Phoenix is so different than So Cal or Vegas. It has far more in common with those areas than the ones people want to associate Phoenix with. Tucson may be grouped with ABQ and El Paso IMO but not Phoenix. It definitely has more in common with the west coast than the inner Southwest and don't even talk about associating it with Dallas, Hou, or OKC. It has absolutely nothing in common with those cities.
I live in Scottsdale and I consider myself part of that region too. I definitely don't feel any proximity or cultural similarities to Texans or Okies.
I love Phoenix and Tucson , and I hope that you aren't offended by my posts , and Phoenix and Tucson do have a lot in common with the West Coast considering AU and ASU they have more students from California then anywhere else and a lot of ppl are moving out to AZ "because of the High Cost Of Living In California" aunt Pat and Uncle sammy both live in Tucson and I visit Phoenix and Tucson AZ. Phoenix is going to be a Gamma World Class City when the next ranking comes out , but I don't understand why you look down on Texas with 2 Beka Class World Class Cities and OK who has 2 Honorable Mention World Class Cities Tulsa OK Last Official Ranking and Oklahoma City and Tulsa on this upcoming ranking.
AZ would be more like Los Angeles if they didn't vote against the Martin Luther King Holiday and voted for Mc cain Instead of Obama , and that makes Phoenix sounds a great deal like the Oklahoma cities Tulsa and Oklahoma City. The Big Texas Cities supported the Martin Luther King Holiday and voted for Obama somethiing that Phoenix didn't do.
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