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View Poll Results: Greensboro vs Syracuse
Greensboro, NC 41 51.90%
Syracuse, NY 38 48.10%
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Old 07-20-2017, 02:45 PM
 
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Some street views of some of the city neighborhoods mentioned. Strathmore: https://goo.gl/maps/XboQZrwKYWE2
Greater Strathmore Neighborhood Association | Weclome to City Living, Welcome to Strathmore

Sedgwick: https://goo.gl/maps/sZuQsSWiBFC2
SEDGWICK FARM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION

Berkeley Park: https://goo.gl/maps/EA6qTA5Zaqx
Berkeley Park

Scottholm: https://goo.gl/maps/EPxaj8ywCpR2
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottholm,_Syracuse

Shotwell Park area of Eastwood: https://goo.gl/maps/kxmKQWqtxD72

Arlington Tract area(SE) part of Eastwood: https://goo.gl/maps/7CynT6paknm
Eastwood Neighborhood Association
City of Syracuse -> TNT Tomorrow's Neighborhoods Today

Court-Woodlawn: https://goo.gl/maps/KGhAAGhbxUG2
Court-Woodlawn Task Force

South Valley(south of Seneca Turnpike):
https://goo.gl/maps/DJDcbbfYa9F2
City of Syracuse -> TNT Tomorrow's Neighborhoods Today
City of Syracuse -> TNT Tomorrow's Neighborhoods Today

Tipperary Hill:
https://goo.gl/maps/nrV2HNd6mcM2
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tipperary_Hill
Explore Tipperary Hill | The NewsHouse | Syracuse University and Community News - S.I. Newhouse School of Public Communications

Hawley-Green:
https://goo.gl/maps/CEDsE7pc3st
Hawley-Green Neighbors
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawley...toric_District

Franklin Square:
https://goo.gl/maps/m1ogAN6W9fG2
https://www.google.com/amp/www.syrac..._wasteland.amp
https://www.google.com/amp/s/article...o_syracuse.amp
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_Square,_Syracuse
One Franklin Square - Syracuse, NY | Apartment Finder
The Lofts at Franklin Square - Syracuse, NY | Apartment Finder
Mission Landing | Condos in Syracuse | Downtown Syracuse, NY
http://syracusepremierapartments.com...-view-terrace/
Destiny Arms
https://nccnews.expressions.syr.edu/...wn-experience/

Inner Harbor plans: Inner Harbor | COR Development Company, LLC
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.syrac...ner_harbor.amp
https://www.google.com/amp/s/article...ner_harbor.amp

Destiny USA hotel: https://www.google.com/amp/s/article..._usa_hotel.amp
Embassy Suites by Hilton Syracuse Destiny USA Hotel
https://www.destinyusa.com/event/job...e-destiny-usa/
Correction on the street view for this area: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0315...2!8i6656?hl=en


Another area, Lincoln Hill/Park(up hill): https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0579...2!8i6656?hl=en
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Old 07-20-2017, 08:14 PM
 
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Syracuse student apartment construction: https://www.google.com/amp/s/article...n_syracuse.amp

Construction starts on big student apartment project near Syracuse University | syracuse.com
http://www.peakcampus.com/news/peak-...h-and-syracuse

https://www.myaspenheights.com/our-locations/syracuse/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/article...n_syracuse.amp

https://www.google.com/amp/s/article...tys_approv.amp
https://www.aptitudere.com/projects

Is already finished: New student apartment building going up near Syracuse University | syracuse.com
https://www.americancampus.com/stude...point-syracuse

There are 4 other projects that are targeted towards students that have been finished in recent years as well. Some of these projects are on/near this bus line: Connective Corridor

These apartment buildings are just west of Downtown Syracuse in the Park Avenue neighborhood: https://www.dietzlofts.com
Old lantern factory in Syracuse to become upscale apartments | syracuse.com

538 Erie | Experience Modern Living Downtown Syracuse

Apartments near the Regional Market, Transportation Center, Destiny USA and NBT Bank Stadium: Syracuse Premier Apartments | Hiawatha Heights

CNYRMA

NBT Bank Stadium » Onondaga County Parks

https://www.centro.org/service_sched...rtation-center

This park just north of the city is only minutes away: Onondaga Lake Park » Onondaga County Parks

This former school in the Tipperary Hill area turned into apartments a few years ago: St Patrick's Lofts - Apartment Rental Community | Sutton Real Estate Company, LLC

Some North Salina/Little Italy/North State recent apartment conversions: Syracuse Premier Apartments | Flats at North Salina

Syracuse Premier Apartments | Flats at North State

Walier Lofts - Syracuse, NY | Apartment Finder

A new building a couple of blocks from St Joseph's Hospital and the area above: Contact Us | Butternut Commons Syracuse
Butternut Commons Luxury Apartments - Syracuse, NY | Apartment Finder

This is a business district on the Southside that has been cleaned up some and has seen more business activity in recent years: Sankofa District
City of Syracuse -> TNT Tomorrow's Neighborhoods Today
City of Syracuse -> TNT Tomorrow's Neighborhoods Today


This organization helped to get rid of a food desert on that side of town: https://www.jubilee-homes.org/
Jubilee Homes - 30 Years Of Community Service | Kenny Dees | Power 620
Price Rite store opens Sunday on Syracuse's South Side | syracuse.com


This neighborhood where much of the city's Hispanic population is concentrated has seen some investment in the northern portion of the neighborhood: SALT District of the Near Westside – The Syracuse Arts, Literacy and Technology District of the Near Westside Initiative
More projects that have been completed or are in the works: Pike Block | Apartments in Downtown Syracuse - NY

Dey's Plaza Apartments

Syracuse Downtown Apartments

Herald Commons Apartments - Syracuse, NY | Apartment Finder
New Apartments Expected to Open in Downtown Syracuse Soon

https://www.downtownsyracuse.com/dow...ur/tour-stops/

Downtown art center: https://www.google.com/amp/www.syrac...enter_home.amp

https://www.google.com/amp/s/article...use_photos.amp

An old hotel brought back to life last year: Syracuse Hotel, Hotel Syracuse NY| Marriott Syracuse Downtown

Former Hotel Syracuse officially opens as Marriott Syracuse

Apartment expansion: https://www.google.com/amp/s/article...e_building.amp

The Amos – Enjoy Living in The Amos

Another building with apartments in Downtown: Icon Tower Luxury Apartments

Exclusive look inside new Icon Tower in downtown Syracuse | WSTM

More affordable apartments on the city's Northside: https://www.google.com/amp/s/article...apartments.amp

First 3 buildings are new to the apartment game: JF Real Estate is a multifaceted real estate brokerage company based in the heart of Central & Upstate New York. - Apartments

Currently under construction: https://www.google.com/amp/s/article...apartments.amp

Just curious, but does Greensboro have any walkable suburbs in its metro? Some Syracuse area examples: https://goo.gl/maps/UHUS27P8e1M2 (Liverpool)

https://goo.gl/maps/7zB5AerykJ62 (Baldwinsville)

https://goo.gl/maps/iGjWXwv7Q2k (Fayetteville)

https://goo.gl/maps/QLA8CtHBw1N2 (Manlius(village))

https://goo.gl/maps/JD4DBNkHSf52 (North Syracuse)

https://goo.gl/maps/cjQwEajK8pz (Camillus(village))

https://goo.gl/maps/D7RJxtHDPT32 (Solvay)

https://goo.gl/maps/FvC3KKszSc82 (East Syracuse)

I'm glad I came across this from Greensboro and I did notice the Woolworth's on Elm Street on street view: The International Civil Rights Center & Museum

While Syracuse doesn't have something like that, the Harriet Tubman Home is about 30 minutes away in Auburn and the Abolitionist Hall of Fame in Peterboro is about 30-35 minutes away. This Latin based restaurant /former church in Downtown Syracuse also has some interesting Underground Railroad history: https://www.themissionrestaurant.com

Wesleyan Chapel

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More projects that have been completed or are in the works: Pike Block | Apartments in Downtown Syracuse - NY

Dey's Plaza Apartments

Syracuse Downtown Apartments

Herald Commons Apartments - Syracuse, NY | Apartment Finder
New Apartments Expected to Open in Downtown Syracuse Soon

https://www.downtownsyracuse.com/dow...ur/tour-stops/

Downtown art center: https://www.google.com/amp/www.syrac...enter_home.amp

https://www.google.com/amp/s/article...use_photos.amp

An old hotel brought back to life last year: Syracuse Hotel, Hotel Syracuse NY| Marriott Syracuse Downtown

Former Hotel Syracuse officially opens as Marriott Syracuse

Apartment expansion: https://www.google.com/amp/s/article...e_building.amp

The Amos – Enjoy Living in The Amos

Another building with apartments in Downtown: Icon Tower Luxury Apartments

Exclusive look inside new Icon Tower in downtown Syracuse | WSTM

More affordable apartments on the city's Northside: https://www.google.com/amp/s/article...apartments.amp

First 3 buildings are new to the apartment game: JF Real Estate is a multifaceted real estate brokerage company based in the heart of Central & Upstate New York. - Apartments

Currently under construction: https://www.google.com/amp/s/article...apartments.amp

Just curious, but does Greensboro have any walkable suburbs in its metro? Some Syracuse area examples: https://goo.gl/maps/UHUS27P8e1M2 (Liverpool)

https://goo.gl/maps/7zB5AerykJ62 (Baldwinsville)

https://goo.gl/maps/iGjWXwv7Q2k (Fayetteville)

https://goo.gl/maps/QLA8CtHBw1N2 (Manlius(village))

https://goo.gl/maps/JD4DBNkHSf52 (North Syracuse)

https://goo.gl/maps/cjQwEajK8pz (Camillus(village))

https://goo.gl/maps/D7RJxtHDPT32 (Solvay)

https://goo.gl/maps/FvC3KKszSc82 (East Syracuse)

I'm glad I came across this from Greensboro and I did notice the Woolworth's on Elm Street on street view: The International Civil Rights Center & Museum

While Syracuse doesn't have something like that, the Harriet Tubman Home is about 30 minutes away in Auburn and the Abolitionist Hall of Fame in Peterboro is about 30-35 minutes away. This Latin based restaurant /former church in Downtown Syracuse also has some interesting Underground Railroad history: https://www.themissionrestaurant.com

Wesleyan Chapel
A couple of other similar historical landmarks in Syracuse: The Freethought Trail
Street view: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0507...7i13312!8i6656


Across the way, this building housed the law office of the second black lawyer in the United States and the first black lawyer in the state of NY: George Vashon Law Office
Vashon, George B. (1824-1878) | The Black Past: Remembered and Reclaimed
Street view(in Hanover Square): https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0505...7i13312!8i6656
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A couple of other similar historical landmarks in Syracuse: The Freethought Trail
Street view: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0507...7i13312!8i6656


Across the way, this building housed the law office of the second black lawyer in the United States and the first black lawyer in the state of NY: George Vashon Law Office
Vashon, George B. (1824-1878) | The Black Past: Remembered and Reclaimed
Street view(in Hanover Square): https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0505...7i13312!8i6656
I wish I had as much time on my hands as you.
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I wish I had as much time on my hands as you.
Not really...I'm just quick with mine and I just have a little more control of my work schedule.
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Not really...I'm just quick with mine and I just have a little more control of my work schedule.
Well I wish I was as dedicated to the cause as you LOL.
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Old 07-21-2017, 07:42 AM
 
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Well I wish I was as dedicated to the cause as you LOL.
I guess....It is just to kill time. I actually suggest/mention other cities, have no problem posting info for all(particularly our) people and at least there won't be any "fake news/info" coming from me on here. (Shrug and not that you specifically do that, but you know what I mean)

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Seems like Greensboro is doing a better job of re-inventing itself.
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Old 07-21-2017, 12:26 PM
 
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What's funny is I almost did a thread on these cities months ago...

These two cities would fall in the same tier, but off bat, future projections favor Greensboro. There are fewer cities closer to my heart than Syracuse but it has to stop bleeding population...

So from my vantage, economy is the chief metric I grade cities by. Greensboro doesn't have a reputation as being economically great, but it is growing at a rate about 63.45% faster than Syracuse (since 2010). I'd also say that Greensboro is more diverse, right off the bat. Greensboro has experienced only slightly higher job growth in the last year (by percentage) and both cities are about the same in unemployment. Greensboro isn't a boomtown and doesn't feel like it, but it is going to have the edge here....

All other categories:

Whoever said Greensboro has a vibrant downtown told a complete lie; vibrant by whose standards? Syracuse has the larger downtown without question (though I wouldn't say it feels larger as a city; they feel about the same), and is much more vibrant, at day and nightlife. Syracuse gets twice the number of commuters, which would contribute to the difference in pace in the two cities. Downtown Greensboro isn't much pleasing at all; they have one two-block strip of nightlife, two blocks is being generous, and the rest of downtown is a dead zone. By comparison, Downtown Syracuse has entertainment more evenly spread. It is much more aesthetically pleasing than Greensboro's downtown on all facets. I can't stand Downtown Greensboro. One of my best friends is one of the business partners for Social Status, which has a location on Elm and also in other cities. Elm is okay. It is Hay Street in Fayetteville with a few more venues, owing to size...

I may be the only person on this board who has done nightlife in both cities. The Spring Garden area is a nice nightlife complement for Greensboro, and is more popping than I imagined. Overall, I'd say nightlife is better in Syracuse, because in Greensboro, there's Elm, Spring Garden, and that's it...

Neighborhoods are going to be closer to a draw. I feel like Greensboro has some underrated neighborhoods and certain parts of town are beautiful. Syracuse's beauty is more rugged. I spent a lot of time on the South Salinas corridor some years back, and also around Strathmore and University Hill. In Greensboro I've spent time around Golden and UNCG. The university areas are comparable bit Syracuse U runs the city in a way UNCG does not. I don't know if that's a good or bad thing. There is much more urban blight and decay in Syracuse...

The diversity in people you find in Syracuse is unmatched by Greensboro....

Shopping is going to be pretty much a draw. Carousel (oops, I mean Destiny lol; it was Carousel when I lived in NY) is kinda overrated. It's big, and because of its size may have some retailers others do not, but is basically any large mall. Four Seasons is more than comparable. Both have local boutiques and retailers but neither are considered prominent for this even within their states; shopping is a draw...

Overall, these cities are fairly equal. My choice? Syracuse still, but Greensboro has warmed on me. I visited Syracuse two months ago for the first time in three years, and I've been to Greensboro maybe 6-7 times between April 2016 and now. Syracuse could get old to me for its decay, certain parts of town look really bad. It's economy is largely dependent on SU, while Greensboro's is more diverse. Both are too small for me to want to live in but I'm a pseudo-New Yorker Upstater, so I love it. I could live in Greensboro if I had to. They are fairly even overall with slight edge to Greensboro...
Think Greensboro might be 5-10 years away from being a boomtown. It's lagging behind RDU and Charlotte, but given the growth of NC I think it will eventually get there.
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If I may, here are Downtown street views of both. Greensboro: https://www.google.com/maps/@36.0725...2!8i6656?hl=en


Syracuse: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0487...2!8i6656?hl=en


College town areas...Greensboro: https://www.google.com/maps/@36.0684...2!8i6656?hl=en (near UNCG and Greensboro College)


https://www.google.com/maps/@36.0718...1b1!2i40?hl=en (near NC A&T and Bennett College)


Syracuse: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0416...2!8i6656?hl=en (north of Syracuse University/near SUNY-ESF and SUNY-Upstate)


https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0470...2!8i6656?hl=en (near SU's Visual Performing Arts School/Syracuse Stage on Connective Corridor)



https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0478...2!8i6656?hl=en (near Le Moyne College)
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