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Anyhow, I think these are things that the city really should address. The south side of Chicago really could do with more people and the south side's lakefront (and canal/river fronts) really could be develop-able gems. It also seems odd for Hyde Park to be such an isolated pocket.
Chicago's mass media muscle does need work. I understand not attracting douchiness is important, but it seems quite a bit of Chicago's native talent end up in NYC/LA because there isnt' enough opportunities in the city. The Second City alone seems to develop a lot of talent that winds up elsewhere.
As for weather--how about shelters on the el platforms and bus stops? A more developed "underground" city such as those found in Toronto or Montreal would be great, too.
It'd be great if all that could happen, but we don't have the money for it. A lot of places everywhere need work, there just isn't enough money right now. Will the L ever become entirely (even half) subway? Not in our lifetimes. Do we need celebrities? No, what do they add? They don't care about you so why be infatuated by their presence? The only thing that really could do anything beneficial is the redevelopment of the south side. It did, at one point, house Chicago's best communities.
As a chicago native i have to comment on your blatant mistakes. One of the main reasons people don't like chicago is because of the people. Specifically people like you who always feel the need to be in competition with other cities and feel the need to put other cities down. Get the picture? Go to LA and see how many of them even have chicago, or new york for that matter on their radar. not many. Go to new york and its the same story.
So chicago has a better skyline than LA. Well everyone knows that. Skylines dont completely make a city. As far as food goes, give me a break La has wonderful food. Mexican, Central american, south american, african, asian, eastern european, etc. There is no need to knock a cities dining scene, just because you couldn't find a vienna beef hot dog.
Chicago also does not have nearly the amount of diversity that LA or the LA metro area has...and if you think otherwise, which i cant see how than you need help... California, specifically southern California, probably has waaay more diversity than pretty much anywhere save, new york city.
Its people like you, that make others think chicagoans have an inferiority complex.
If you truley loved chicago, like me, and as much as i hate to admitt it, STEVE O, than you would just sit back, relax and realize that CHICAGO, is the nation's best kept secret.
Why is there so much LA hatred? seriously c'mon, you are talking about LOS ANGELES! I'm sorry but as far as exposure goes NYC and LA lead that catergory hands down. LA is twice the size of Chicago, its just better, has more to offer PERIOD! get over it, Chicago is a great city, you know world class, the whole shabang! but its no LA or NYC. LA and NYC keep on widening the gap between themselves and Chicago. Chicago is great but its not growing fast enough to keep up with the "big 2" lol. Now you have metros like DFW and Houston closing the gap between themselves and Chicago, I know you people are gonna hate me for saying that but its true. DFW and Houston are hubs for culture, arts, industry, finance, etc of the south. And as of now it seems they WILL pass Chicago in population and importance. But Chicago will always remain the "true" american city.
Do we need celebrities? No, what do they add? They don't care about you so why be infatuated by their presence?
I sense some resentement towards celebrities. Of course you need celebrities or high profile residents. High profile residents spend thousands of dollars creating market for high quality goods and services. They create jobs. I think the mistake you make is based on the fact that since there are virtually no celebrities in Chicago you see them only through perspective of TMZ and tabloids, forgetting that people like DeNiro or Baryshnikov are celebrities too and they add tremendously to cultural life and economy of the location they chose to inhabit. It's not about infatuation but the fact that high profile residents are also high profile spenders. Did Oprah hurt Chicago or quite the opposite: created hundreds of jobs and added to cultural and social life of Chicago?
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I agree with the OP, but this is why. NYC overshadows every city, it's top dog, it's always been that way, and there's no going back.
LA, is different, it's got a different feel than Chicago and NYC. Most think Chicago has similar feels to it as NYC, and since NYC is larger that's why Chicago struggles to get recognition. It's not really NYC and LA overshadowing Chicago. It's just mainly NYC overshadowing it, if NYC wasn't so similar, Chicago would get much more recognition.
Yes I know, they're different cities, but NYC and Chicago have A LOT of similarities also.
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They sure do. I found Chicago to be a much cleaner & modern version of New York though.
Ditto, I concur.
I wrote this in another thread, but water contamination and shortages across the world are becoming a serious problem. In 40 years Chicago will regain a lot of it's historic importance because of it's location on a Great Lake.
Chicago will have brighter days in the future, and that's a given...
They sure do. I found Chicago to be a much cleaner & modern version of New York though.
Oh, so you are saying Chicago is like New York only cleaner and more modern? How about less populous, less artsy, less succesful, less worldly?
New York is so far ahead of any other US city, both in term of it's size and global economical and cultural relevance that any comparisons to any other US city are simply misguided.
Well, you mean quoted for opinion. Not truth. This is all mostly opinion when you're just stating viewpoints like that poster.
I've never heard an overwhelming view that people hate Chicago because of the people. I tend to hear the opposite.
Same with the point that Chicagoans are always trying to compare themselves with other cities. I always tend to notice the opposite. That compared to many other major cities - Chicagoans don't really compare since it's a fairly unique city without any clear "twins" or really similar cities to have a rivalry. New York and Chicago are both urban, but talk to people who have spent a lot of time in both cities - and they're actually EXTREMELY different areas. Same with LA. Chicago and LA are just so different for many reasons.
It's all just personal opinion. Truths that are quoted are facts, not just observations.
I sense some resentement towards celebrities. Of course you need celebrities or high profile residents. High profile residents spend thousands of dollars creating market for high quality goods and services. They create jobs. I think the mistake you make is based on the fact that since there are virtually no celebrities in Chicago you see them only through perspective of TMZ and tabloids, forgetting that people like DeNiro or Baryshnikov are celebrities too and they add tremendously to cultural life and economy of the location they chose to inhabit. It's not about infatuation but the fact that high profile residents are also high profile spenders. Did Oprah hurt Chicago or quite the opposite: created hundreds of jobs and added to cultural and social life of Chicago?
this makes alot of sense. esp. the bolded part.
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