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Unread 05-04-2011, 03:04 PM
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Location: New Mexico
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Default What sets the New England states apart?

What are the differences between the New England states?

Maine
New Hampshire
Vermont
Massachusetts
Rhode Island
Connecticut

What sets these states apart from one another? They all have a very cohesive regional character, fairly similar history and settlement patterns, and similar aesthetics in architecture. There are some big political differences (but also similar). So how would you discern for example the difference between Vermont and New Hampshire, or Massachusetts from Connecticut?

I'm really interested in hearing what the perceptions are for people outside of New England, but natives will chime in also.
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Unread 05-04-2011, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Great Plains, North America
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One difference would be that Southern New England states, consisting of Massachusetts, Rhode Island, and Connecticut, are more densely populated than Maine, New Hampshire, and Vermont. The northern states have more wilderness and smaller cities.
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Unread 05-06-2011, 01:02 AM
 
Location: Suburbia and boy is it great (NOT)
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I am a Connecticut native and there are people in New England who say we aren't New Englanders, but New Yorkers. CT is a very divided state. The rest of New England is, well, New England.
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Unread 05-06-2011, 04:18 AM
 
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Vermont has a stronger Left-wing Third Party (Progressive, Socialist) presence than any state in the nation.

I believe New Hampshire is more Republican and fiscally conservative than the others.

Maine is more French than the others, except maybe Vermont, and its current Governor had French as his first language.

I believe Rhode Island has more from the Portuguese-speaking world, specifically Portugal and Cape Verde, than the others. It seems like it might have more Cape Verdeans than just about any place. I think their state legislature might be about the only state legislature in the nation to have a Cape Verdean in it.

Connecticut I think has a larger Hispanic population than the rest and also has some of the richest people in New England.

Massachusetts has a large amount of lapsed Irish-Catholics and is fairly urban.

In historic terms

Vermont was its own "Republic" for a time and I believe was the first state to ban slavery. It has a long history of doing its own thing, but for a long time it had that history as a Republican state. It was one of two states to never support FDR and produced the solidly Republican Calvin Coolidge. (His career was in Massachusetts, but he was from Vermont if I'm remembering right)

I don't remember New Hampshire history well.

Maine was not a state until 1820. It entered at the same time as Missouri as part of the Missouri Compromise on slavery. It was the other state, other than Vermont that is, to never go for FDR in an election. Republicans survived better in Maine though as it's often been a fairly capitalist state. Many men of Maine distinguished themselves in the US Civil War.

Rhode Island was founded to allow for more religious toleration than the Puritans did. I believe it has the oldest surviving synagogue in the US.

Connecticut I think started from a woman who objected to the Puritans.

Massachusetts is one of the oldest of the English colonies, tied with Virginia I believe. Oddly it started as Puritans, but maybe even more oddly I've seen some argue that influence remains. The Puritans were about order, but they were maybe even more about "Purifying" the Church of England of Catholic (and therefore "backward") influences. So one writer argued that mix of orderliness and opposition to "backwardness" remains in MA today.

I've never been to any of these states.
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Unread 05-06-2011, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Fishers, IN
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I am a Connecticut native and there are people in New England who say we aren't New Englanders, but New Yorkers. CT is a very divided state. The rest of New England is, well, New England.
Hence the moniker, "Newyorkachusetts"??
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Unread 05-06-2011, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Seattle Area
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No matter the size of the city they all have beautiful, charming, and quaint downtowns.
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Unread 05-07-2011, 06:24 AM
 
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What are the differences between the New England states?

Maine
New Hampshire
Vermont
Massachusetts
Rhode Island
Connecticut

What sets these states apart from one another? They all have a very cohesive regional character, fairly similar history and settlement patterns, and similar aesthetics in architecture. There are some big political differences (but also similar). So how would you discern for example the difference between Vermont and New Hampshire, or Massachusetts from Connecticut?

I'm really interested in hearing what the perceptions are for people outside of New England, but natives will chime in also.
The accents vary from place to place.

The geography varies widely, too. For example, Vermont is mountainous, (hence the name) while some of the others are known for their coastal areas. Some, like MA, have both. Maine is unique, with its long, rocky coastline and huge areas of forest where no one lives. Even within the states there are variations. Southern Connecticut is more connected to NYC and a lot of people who live there commute to the city, while the northern and parts are not so much.
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Unread 05-07-2011, 06:27 AM
 
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Vermont has a stronger Left-wing Third Party (Progressive, Socialist) presence than any state in the nation.

I believe New Hampshire is more Republican and fiscally conservative than the others.

Maine is more French than the others, except maybe Vermont, and its current Governor had French as his first language.

I believe Rhode Island has more from the Portuguese-speaking world, specifically Portugal and Cape Verde, than the others. It seems like it might have more Cape Verdeans than just about any place. I think their state legislature might be about the only state legislature in the nation to have a Cape Verdean in it.

Connecticut I think has a larger Hispanic population than the rest and also has some of the richest people in New England.

Massachusetts has a large amount of lapsed Irish-Catholics and is fairly urban.

In historic terms

Vermont was its own "Republic" for a time and I believe was the first state to ban slavery. It has a long history of doing its own thing, but for a long time it had that history as a Republican state. It was one of two states to never support FDR and produced the solidly Republican Calvin Coolidge. (His career was in Massachusetts, but he was from Vermont if I'm remembering right)

I don't remember New Hampshire history well.

Maine was not a state until 1820. It entered at the same time as Missouri as part of the Missouri Compromise on slavery. It was the other state, other than Vermont that is, to never go for FDR in an election. Republicans survived better in Maine though as it's often been a fairly capitalist state. Many men of Maine distinguished themselves in the US Civil War.

Rhode Island was founded to allow for more religious toleration than the Puritans did. I believe it has the oldest surviving synagogue in the US.

Connecticut I think started from a woman who objected to the Puritans.

Massachusetts is one of the oldest of the English colonies, tied with Virginia I believe. Oddly it started as Puritans, but maybe even more oddly I've seen some argue that influence remains. The Puritans were about order, but they were maybe even more about "Purifying" the Church of England of Catholic (and therefore "backward") influences. So one writer argued that mix of orderliness and opposition to "backwardness" remains in MA today.

I've never been to any of these states.
Massachusetts has a significant Portuguese population in the Fall River area, which is close to RI. That's where Emeril is from.
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Unread 05-12-2011, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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... That's where Emeril is from.
Who?
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Unread 05-12-2011, 04:37 PM
 
Location: 30-40N 90-100W
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Who?
Bam!

Your source for Chef Emeril Lagasse's recipes, restaurant info, videos, merchandise and anything that has to do with Emeril | emerils.com
Emeril Lagasse - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Anyway he's apparently half-Quebecois/half-Portuguese and as she mentioned from Fall River. Good catch on her part.

(My brother-in-law used to be into cooking shows)
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