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Old 08-20-2013, 11:09 PM
 
Location: West Hollywood
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Originally Posted by grapico View Post
I think you mean Houston, but yes... same thing. But even then, the gap from Houston to Chicago is 500k people and don't feel similar at all. Chicago is way more *city* than Houston. The gap on NYC to Chicago is 5.6 million. Either way, the population and city limits are arbitrary and don't have much relevance.
How is Chicago more of a "city" than Houston? Aren't there reasonable arguments why Houston is more urban?

 
Old 08-20-2013, 11:12 PM
 
Location: roaming gnome
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How is Chicago more of a "city" than Houston? Aren't there reasonable arguments why Houston is more urban?
Umm... really have to ask that? What reasonable arguments?
 
Old 08-20-2013, 11:16 PM
 
Location: Upper West Side, Manhattan, NYC
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C'mon grapico. You know very well that's a theme going on in Chicago is that Chicago offers "pretty much" the same experience as New York. Five theaters are pretty much the same as five hundred
Wait a minute, since when does Chicago only have five theaters? That's absurd. I'm not comparing this to NYC because NYC's scene is better (one of the top 2 in the world for theater), but Chicago has WAY more than five theaters.. If you're going to post facts, at least get them right.
 
Old 08-20-2013, 11:34 PM
 
Location: roaming gnome
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Wait a minute, since when does Chicago only have five theaters? That's absurd. I'm not comparing this to NYC because NYC's scene is better (one of the top 2 in the world for theater), but Chicago has WAY more than five theaters.. If you're going to post facts, at least get them right.
He is talking Broadway theater and he is right in that regard except he gave Chicago one extra one. Technically, Chicago only has 4 because one of the 5 is actually home of the Joffrey Ballet now. NYC has close to about 90 at any one time running the *big* broadway style shows on broadway/off broadway...That's all your 100+ seat theaters doing Broadway theater.
 
Old 08-20-2013, 11:42 PM
 
Location: Upper West Side, Manhattan, NYC
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He is talking Broadway theater and he is right in that regard except he gave Chicago one extra one. Technically, Chicago only has 4 because one of the 5 is actually home of the Joffrey Ballet now. NYC has close to about 90 at any one time running broadway style shows.
Yes, "Broadway" in Chicago cannot be compared to NYC. Not even close, it just can't. Only one other city in the world can compare to NYC. But city wide, Chicago has a LOT more than five theatres and some of the major ones are not even on Chicago's "Broadway," if you can call it that. Steppenwolf is in Lincoln Park and the Lookingglass and Shakespeare theatre are in Streeterville, Broadway Playhouse is in Gold Coast/Streeterville, etc.

We both know that most of Chicago's theaters are outside of the Loop and they come in all sorts of sizes.
 
Old 08-21-2013, 12:12 AM
 
Location: West Hollywood
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Umm... really have to ask that? What reasonable arguments?
Maybe that Houston is the 4th largest city and much older than Chicago with very dense neighborhoods?! Isn't LA also more urban too?! It's denser and has more people. Arguably cities like Seattle and New Orleans are also more urban, also Atlanta, Phoenix, Miami, and Vegas.

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Old 08-21-2013, 12:29 AM
 
Location: Miami-Jax
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I knew I shouldn't have clicked on this thread. Now my head hurts.
 
Old 08-21-2013, 03:21 AM
 
Location: West Hollywood
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Umm... really have to ask that? What reasonable arguments?
LOL!

You seriously think that Houston, Dallas, Austin, New Orleans, Miami, Atlanta, Phoenix, and Vegas are less urban thatn Chicago?!

I can say that Chicago is way behind these cities.... Atlanta, Seattle, Portland, Vegas, and New Orleans are way more urban... I live in Chicago. Downtown Atlanta has way better vibrancy and culture as well as New Orleans, especially Houston. They are all older cities with a much less car centric center and they are all denser and all much more historic.... Los Angeles seems to even have more history than Chicago!! Hollywood and Downtown LA are very dense and less car-centric.

Look at all the parking lots and 'El' stops in River North and South Loop. Way too may spots for cars compared to Atlanta, Houston, and LA. These cities are much more dense and compact than Chicago.... Chicago has way too many strip malls.... the high rises don't seem to matter anymore. It's lack of density puts it more on par with any city in central and northern Florida as well as any suburb of Memphis or Louisville.

seattle is way denser and has more nightlife and houston is much more vibrant, compact, progressive, and more fun than Chicago.

Chicago is dying compared to nearly every other southern, eastern, and western city.... get over it
 
Old 08-21-2013, 03:30 AM
 
Location: West Hollywood
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Umm... really have to ask that? What reasonable arguments?
So you're saying Chicago is more urban than Houston?

Especially its rival cities of Dallas and Phoenix????

Good luck

New York, Phoenix, and Texas Cities kill all
 
Old 08-21-2013, 06:37 AM
 
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Some people think NYC has no suburban qualities to it but I've already proven that it does.
Why do you keep repeating this strawman?

No person thinks that NYC has no suburban qualities. Every major city on earth has some suburban qualities.

It's like saying "some people think NYC has no roads" or some other nonsense. Obviously there is no city with no suburban characteristics.
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