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If you happen to like NY more than any CA cities, and because of that you're satisfied with the number of Asians there or their cultural impact on the place, then fine: admit it.
But to claim that NYC absolutely has more, then be shot down, continue to insist that you're still right even though you have no evidence to back it up at all, and respond with things like "well, 20% Asian is enough... 50% is too much..." that's just stupid.
California has alot of Asian presence throughout much of the state not just the big urban areas on the coast. ...
In the Central Valley you have alot of Hmongs--refugees from the post-Vietnam War period from the mountainous regions in between Vietnam and Laos. In the small towns like Oroville where much of my relatives live in the Sacremento Valley, there are Hmong communities scattered through out the area. Including Fresno, where I believe most of the Asian population is actually Hmong. In the northern Sacramento Valley towns north of the capital, there's a lot of Indian Sikhs(mostly from Punjab) who now run a lot of the local trucking and farming industries in the area. Yuba City has one of the larger concentrations of Sikhs in the country and hosts an annual festival for Sikhs that attracts both national and internationl Sikh visitors.
Long Beach has one of the largest populations of Cambodians outside Cambodia itself. Fremont has the highest number of Afghans in the US. There's a sizable Thaitown neighborhood in East Hollywood in Los Angeles.
There's a large Fillipino population spread throughout the state as well. I grew up Fillipino classmates in school that I never realized were Fillipino for years---because of their Spanish surnames I always assumed they were Hispanic. You've also got historic Japantowns all over the state, although few survived the World War II internment period--but there's a lot of people of Japanese descent in California, although at this point most are very assimilated into the culture of California. You've also got communities of Samoans, Tongans, Indonesians, Laotians(not Hmong), in various suburbs of the major cities as well.
New York City will always have a diverse mix of immigrants from all over the world--and the Asian population is growing with a lot of Chinese and Indian immigrants--however the Asian population in California is more diverse and more represented throughout the entire state.
50% accounting for the total population of any city detracts from its diversity, but a 25% each or a 30-30-30% ratio of most groups would make a place diverse. Oakland is 26% white, 27% black, 25% Hispanic and 17% Asian. THAT is what you call diverse! Well its not what YOU would call diverse since you're applying the national averages to what you think is how things should be determined. But any non-biased, rational-thinking, reasonable person will have to admit that what Oakland has is true racial diversity.
Agree to disagree. That's not diverse. Those percentages indicate to me that, for whatever reason, more whites would rather not live in Oakland (especially considering that San Francisco has a much higher percentage of whites).
And I never said east coast cities don't have similar diversity issues. Of course they do.
Agree to disagree. That's not diverse. Those percentages just tell me that, for whatever reason, more whites would rather not live in Oakland. And I never said east coast cities don't have similar diversity issues.
You don't live here, so you don't quite have the right perspective on the situation.
Oakland used to have a higher black percentage. Whites and Asians are moving there and increasing the percentages of their own groups.
More importantly, Seattle is the hometown of Samoan baller Peyton Siva! On the East Coast (even in areas with large Asian populations) you're less likely to see Asian Americans even representing high school basketball or football teams. This isn't the case in California or Washington State.
Not necessarily true. Even at my HS, which was about 93% White, I played Football with a Vietnamese dude and another player was Filipino and Greek. We had a few Black players(inc. myself), a Native American player and a player with parents from Colombia. I've seen Asian Basketball, Football, Track, Soccer, Tennis and maybe Baseball players at HS's in my part of NY. I've seen Asian athletes at HS's in other parts of the state as well. They might not be high profile, but they here too.
California has alot of Asian presence throughout much of the state not just the big urban areas on the coast. ...
In the Central Valley you have alot of Hmongs--refugees from the post-Vietnam War period from the mountainous regions in between Vietnam and Laos. In the small towns like Oroville where much of my relatives live in the Sacremento Valley, there are Hmong communities scattered through out the area. Including Fresno, where I believe most of the Asian population is actually Hmong. In the northern Sacramento Valley towns north of the capital, there's a lot of Indian Sikhs(mostly from Punjab) who now run a lot of the local trucking and farming industries in the area. Yuba City has one of the larger concentrations of Sikhs in the country and hosts an annual festival for Sikhs that attracts both national and internationl Sikh visitors.
Long Beach has one of the largest populations of Cambodians outside Cambodia itself. Fremont has the highest number of Afghans in the US. There's a sizable Thaitown neighborhood in East Hollywood in Los Angeles.
There's a large Fillipino population spread throughout the state as well. I grew up Fillipino classmates in school that I never realized were Fillipino for years---because of lltheir Spanish surnames I always assumed they were Hispanic. You've also got historic Japantowns all over the state, although few survived the World War II internment period--but there's a lot of people of Japanese descent in California, although at this point most are very assimilated into the culture of California. You've also got small communities of Samoans, Tongans, Indonesians, Laotians(not Hmong), in various suburbs of the major cities as well.
New York City will always have a diverse mix of immigrants from all over the world--and the Asian population is growing with a lot of Chinese and Indian immigrants--however the Asian population in California is more diverse and more represented throughout the
entire state.
It's not that NY doesn't have Asians across the state, but the volume isn't the same as CA.
Agree to disagree. That's not diverse. Those percentages indicate to me that, for whatever reason, more whites would rather not live in Oakland
And what about the fact that Whites are the fastest growing race in Oakland behind Asians.
Furthermore, what exactly does being appealling to White people that have to do with overall racial diversity?
That sort of thinking must be an East Coast thing cause out here, Whites and Blacks are not the only game in town.
In California, Hispanics and Asians are not a novelty or groups that give White Yuppie Hipsterss neat restaurants to hang out in on weekends.
No, we have entire cities dominated by these groups and they are strong vibrant neighborhoods that dont rely on the approval of Whites OR Blacks to justify their existence.
Dont worry East Coaster, one day you'll get there.
I wonder if any big city in the East Coast has an affluent neighborhood within its limits as diverse as Caballo Hills? Apart from New York City, I highly doubt it.
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