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Boston maybe a better city to visit if you're white, but for everyone else DC is king, especially blacks and Latinos.
This is silly, too. Most people in the United States are not black or Latino. And Boston is a better city for certain groups of Latinos. If you are Puerto Rican or Dominican, then you'll find more of a community in Boston than you will in DC.
Oh, so now we're focusing on just city propers? You're one of the main people that's always saying "If you added Arlington, Alexandria, and Silver Spring to DC..." From now on, you either get to use DC proper or the entire DC region. You can't change your metric whenever it suits your argument.
At any rate, as one poster already stated, the Med School and the B-School are in Boston proper. The "T" is very good and certainly rivals Metro. And BU may actually be a better school than Georgetown. BU is a really good school, it's just that Harvard overshadows it.
Now that I think about it, it makes more sense to consider Cambridge and other surrounding burbs as part of Boston than it does to consider Silver Spring and other surrounding burbs as part of DC. Somerville looks and feels more like Boston than Silver Spring looks and feels like DC.
And now that I've thought about it some more, why would anyone visit DC if they weren't coming to see the monuments? I mean, that pretty much is DC. People go to Chicago to get Italian beef, see the Bean, and eat at Gino's East. Those things are at the top of most people's list. Nobody has Ben's Chili Bowl and Adams-Morgan on their list. For most people, once they've seen the Monuments, it's time to hop back in the Winnebago and head back to Indiana.
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This is silly, too. Most people in the United States are not black or Latino. And Boston is a better city for certain groups of Latinos. If you are Puerto Rican or Dominican, then you'll find more of a community in Boston than you will in DC.
There is nothing to debate. Can you sit there at your computer and say that the T is better than the Metro. Seriously? Because it certainly doesn;t generate the ridership.
You don't argue for your system very well since the only metric you use is ridership, the least important factor of mass transit effectiveness. Advantages of the metro would be that it's cleaner and runs later...however Boston has much better coverage in the city. They have very comparative run-times from my experience, with the exception of the Green Line, which runs very frequently.
I can understand why you would say the Metro is better and that's fine...but like most categories, you incorrectly put DC on a pedastal on which it doesn't belong.
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No, i didn't say that. I was comparing schools that are 100% physically located in each city. GT > BU.
Only because it fits your argument. It has nothing to do with how the cities actually act or feel. There is a very strong presence of Harvard and MIT (especially Harvard) in the city of Boston. You're even ignoring the fact that Georgetown is further from the central city than MIT and about the same as Harvard simply because it means you'd have to admit Washington DC loses (to be kind) in this category.
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Boston's nightlife is ok at best. I will give Boston the edge as being a better neighborhood bar city but it falls short in comparison to DC's many party districts. Plus, Boston's night club scene is bogus. Some parties in DC don't end until 4:00 a.m. See U Street District and Adams Morgan as examples. Then the party spills over to the streets for Jumbo Slice Pizza wars until 5:00 a.m.
Wait...are you talking about house parties?
I agree DC has a better club scene and I've even said DC has a better overall scene...this isn't as much about Boston's scene being good as it is about you overselling DC. You try to make its club scene sound like NYC, London, Sao Paulo, or Tokyo when it's not even close to the upper echelon of the United States.
I agree DC has a better club scene and I've even said DC has a better overall scene...this isn't as much about Boston's scene being good as it is about you overselling DC. You try to make its club scene sound like NYC, London, Sao Paulo, or Tokyo when it's not even close to the upper echelon of the United States.
I consider myself to be a bit of a connoisseur when it comes to night life (I recently was bought out of my stake in a somewhat popular club in NY, and just in general love club scene), DC has a very good club scene, especially if you are African American. It is the top of the second tier, I would have NYC, Vegas, Miami as the top 3 in the US. The biggest complaint I have found with going out in DC is many clubs/lounges are open later than the Metro runs, and many cabbies in DC hate driving to Maryland or Arlington. The bar/pub scene (which in my experience, is preferred by Whites) is much better in Boston.
I have ridden the T and Metro, and I agree with another poster, while Metro is cleaner, the T seems to cover more of Boston.
I consider myself to be a bit of a connoisseur when it comes to night life (I recently was bought out of my stake in a somewhat popular club in NY, and just in general love club scene), DC has a very good club scene, especially if you are African American. It is the top of the second tier, I would have NYC, Vegas, Miami as the top 3 in the US. The biggest complaint I have found with going out in DC is many clubs/lounges are open later than the Metro runs, and many cabbies in DC hate driving to Maryland or Arlington. The bar/pub scene (which in my experience, is preferred by Whites) is much better in Boston.
I have ridden the T and Metro, and I agree with another poster, while Metro is cleaner, the T seems to cover more of Boston.
Who goes to clubs nowadays? That scene is so 2003. It's all about chillin' at Marvin or Habana Outpost with a t-shirt on and a Red Stripe in hand.
How did this conversation move to who has better mass transit? LOL....
Anyway, who cares what people are saying right now because DC is in the middle of major transit expansion's unlike the rest of the northeast. Everyone else is broke so there really isn't much to talk about. Those monuments and being the nation's capital sure comes with it's perks. Metro Silver Line, DC Streetcar Network, Metro Purple Line, Metro Corridor Cities Transit Way, Arlington Streetcar Network etc. TOD construction in every corner of the region. It's a great time to live in the DC region that's for sure. I'm sure this guy has already made plans for his vacation so why are you all still arguing? This is more of a cultural argument anyway. Minorities don't really have Boston on their radar. Comparing Chocolate City with Boston is like comparing oil and vinegar. I don't think you should bring culture into the argument because different races want to see and experience different things. That's why you guys keep going in circles. Most black, hispanic, asian, and white people are all interested in different things. For instance, black people are probably going to want to see the black neighborhoods like Harlem in NYC or Shaw in DC. White people are probably going to want to see the white neighborhoods like Canton in Baltimore. It's just how it goes normally.
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My experience has been different in DC, granted I don't live there, but have been several dozens of times. I have never been on the Chicago Transit System (I am from New York), but I can see DC's being busier.
DC has some of the slowest drivers I have ever seen, I will stick by that. In addition, the cabbies there are god aweful. I have never seen so many people brake hard at a yellow light. Drivers in the city seem to be so indecisive.
That is because most of the drivers and motorists in DC are not actually DC residents, many people in the District of Columbia don't drive, those are the Maryland and VA residents who may or may not know their way through the District who may drive so indecisively. The city was voted the most walkable city in America in 2009. And when the DC streetcars come back in 2013 it will seem even busier.
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