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Col: Chicago.
Qol: Tie. I can live a better lifestyle in Chicgo since COL is lower, but i prefer the surroundings of SF
Culture: Tie
food: Tie. Chicago has better technique in its restaurants.
San Fran has fresh produce but almost afraid to do anything to it. SF better asian offerings, seafood. Chicago better Steakhouses, dogs/burgers/sandwiches, fine dining.
Cbd: Chicago
Transit: Chicago
Skyline: Chicago - Better buildings, architecture, layout trumps SF setting and GG bridge.
Economy: SF, since im in IT. Wish i could get into the Zynga IPO
Pace of life: Tie
Water/beaches: Chicago.
Access to other cities: Chicago, major airline hub hub with direct flights almost anywhere in US.
Anything else:
+ for Chicago: sports,family friendly,cleaner + for SF: quirkiness, street level views of the city,
I love Chicago but San Francisco is my favorite north american city. I love its compact size, interesting hoods, unique architecture, beautiful Golden Gate Bridge, Chinatown, nightlife, charm, hills, great restaurants, shopping, Golden Gate Park, cable cars, street cars, Coit Tower, the not so humid weather, mild winters, Sears for breakfast(not sears and roebucks), Fisherman's Wharf, boat rides on the bay, wine country, Cliff House.....................
Col: Chicago
Qol: Tie
Culture: Chicago, by quite a margin (museums, music, theater, etc.) It's not very close.
food: Chicago by a nose. along with NYC, these are the top restaurant cities in the U.S.
Cbd: Chicago by a wide margin but SF is quite good.
Transit: Chicago
Skyline: Chicago
Economy: probably a tie
Pace of life: San Francisco is more laid back, Chicago is more fast-paced. Depends on preference.
Water/beaches: San Francisco but it is close
Access to other cities: Chicago by a margin
Anything else:
Sports: Chicago but SF is no slouch
Business innovation: SF by a nose
Global reach: Chicago
Architecture: Chicago
History: Chicago, but only slightly
Weather: SF, but neither are good.
Recreation: SF by a margin
Day trips: SF by a margin
Both cities are great. Only negatives really are weather, Chicago (crime), and the fact that SF is sitting on a major fault.
what kind of joke is this? chicago is 4 times the size of sf, and nearly 100x the city. and in real life
People get so bent out of shape by SFs shine.
LOL
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people only go to chicago and sf alone, so no, the bay area isnt included.
No, you speak for yourself as to what is what is not included. You seem to be saying that Chicagoland is a huge wasteland of boring nothingness outside of Chicago's city limits but the Bay Area's realm is far interesting and so people actually do venture outside of our city to places like the Napa Valley, Silicon Valley, Santa Cruz, the Marin Headlands and so on.
No need to be butthurt about it, like I've said time after time, cities and their regions are NOT created equally.
Im sorry but that's life.
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call me when sf gets a place like the loop or the miracle mile.
Call me when the Sears Tower finally reaches a market value of $1 Billion like SFs Bank of America building or Embarcadero Center, or Transamerica Pyramid, in the meantime *yawns*
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and yes, chicago msa has a larger gdp than sf msa. thats a fact.
Here's another fact:
2009 Gross Domestic Product 4. San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, CA CSA $535.327 Billion 5. Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City, IL-IN-WI CSA $515.119 Billion
No, you speak for yourself as to what is what is not included. You seem to be saying that Chicagoland is a huge wasteland of boring nothingness outside of Chicago's city limits but the Bay Area's realm is far interesting and so people actually do venture outside of our city to places like the Napa Valley, Silicon Valley, Santa Cruz, the Marin Headlands and so on.
No need to be butthurt about it, like I've said time after time, cities and their regions are NOT created equally.
Im sorry but that's life.
Call me when the Sears Tower finally reaches a market value of $1 Billion like SFs Bank of America building or Embarcadero Center, or Transamerica Pyramid, in the meantime *yawns*
Here's another fact:
2009 Gross Domestic Product 4. San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, CA CSA $535.327 Billion 5. Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City, IL-IN-WI CSA $515.119 Billion
No, you speak for yourself as to what is what is not included. You seem to be saying that Chicagoland is a huge wasteland of boring nothingness outside of Chicago's city limits but the Bay Area's realm is far interesting and so people actually do venture outside of our city to places like the Napa Valley, Silicon Valley, Santa Cruz, the Marin Headlands and so on.
No need to be butthurt about it, like I've said time after time, cities and their regions are NOT created equally.
Im sorry but that's life.
Call me when the Sears Tower finally reaches a market value of $1 Billion like SFs Bank of America building or Embarcadero Center, or Transamerica Pyramid, in the meantime *yawns*
Here's another fact:
2009 Gross Domestic Product 4. San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, CA CSA $535.327 Billion 5. Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City, IL-IN-WI CSA $515.119 Billion
yeah, most people in this thread disagree. chicago is plainly the better city. why even go west of the mississippi if everything urban (this is city data, not country gardening or surfing data) is in the northeast and midwest?
any really, the only reason why sj is even that high is bc of san jose. without the city of san jose, sf would be irrelevant. try fighting it out with other medium sized places like detroit, seattle, or phoenix first.
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