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Neither. I take it as a step back in time. Its usually the architecture and people that give it its old south feeling. These towns tend to not be near major roadways and real southern hospitality is still alive. I've visited New Orleans, Charleston, and Savannah and they all seem to be ghosts of time past.
In other words, you think of a place like Mayberry...correct?
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I don't really think about Birmingham, Montgomery, or Jackson at all. New Orleans, Charleston, and Savannah have always had a nostalgic association with the Old South and it's easy to conjur up images of them in the minds eye.
New Orleans, Charleston and Savannah aren't just "Old South", they are old OLD South, as in "Colonial South".
Jackson, Birmingham and such are argueable because they were around during the "Old South" time period, but they were not the original cities of the South like the above 3 cities. They are all Old South, because they existed in that era. But New Orleans, Charleston and Savannah were around when the "South" started, the latter three started when the South grew and spread.
This is a no-brainer. N.O., Savannah, and Charleston are much older cities with Antebellum qualities, while Birmingham, Montgomery, and Jackson didn't even qualify as "cities" or experience any significant development until after the Civil war. Not even debatable.
New Orleans, Charleston and Savannah aren't just "Old South", they are old OLD South, as in "Colonial South".
Jackson, Birmingham and such are argueable because they were around during the "Old South" time period, but they were not the original cities of the South like the above 3 cities. They are all Old South, because they existed in that era. But New Orleans, Charleston and Savannah were around when the "South" started, the latter three started when the South grew and spread.
I'm not understanding how you're differentiating between "old South" and "colonial South" here. By the former, do you mean the antebellum period going forward?
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This is a no-brainer. N.O., Savannah, and Charleston are much older cities with Antebellum qualities, while Birmingham, Montgomery, and Jackson didn't even qualify as "cities" or experience any significant development until after the Civil war. Not even debatable.
I'm not talking about the age in which these places developed; that's not the focus of the discussion. The focus is the image that each group of cities projects that are associated with the term "Old South."
Exactly my point the only one here projecting such negative imagery towards your "B-Group" is you. The wording of your poll doesn't correspond to what you seem to want to discuss and leads me to believe this thread would've been better in General Conversation as a discussion of what Old South means rather than trying to criticize cities.
I'm not talking about the age in which these places developed; that's not the focus of the discussion. The focus is the image that each group of cities projects that are associated with the term "Old South."
Exactly my point the only one here projecting such negative imagery towards your "B-Group" is you.
I'm well aware that there's more to Birmingham, Montgomery, and Jackson than those unfortunate incidents that happened during a particularly dark point in our nation's history. I actually happen to like them for different reasons and they all have their positive aspects as well. However, let's not act as though those incidents aren't still a part of the image that those cities are trying to shake, both for people who aren't familiar with those cities as well as for people who are. It would be a bit disingenuous to suggest that they aren't. It just is what it is when it comes to that.
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The wording of your poll doesn't correspond to what you seem to want to discuss and leads me to believe this thread would've been better in General Conversation as a discussion of what Old South means rather than trying to criticize cities.
Possibly I wasn't as clear as I could have been in my initial post and perhaps this is better suited for the General U.S. forum. However, my intent is not to criticize cities at all. I'm not making anything up about either group. I know that I'm not being exhaustive either, but that's not the point since I'm zeroing in on a particular and significant part of their images.
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