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Old 07-24-2011, 04:24 PM
 
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So being pro-education is a bad thing now? News to me. Last time I checked it wasn't a good thing to be a backwards redneck moron.


Majority rules and the market rules. Majority also ruled in Detroit. Majority also ruled in Camden, NJ. Majority ruled in a lot of places that just couldn't sustain themselves and urban sprawl, while currently functional, will not sustain for long.

ESPECIALLY with the low quality of mass-produced housing these days... The southern suburbs will fall apart even before the rest of Detroit's stock, guaranteed.
I'm no conservative, and there's nothing wrong with being pro education, but you come off as some annoying proud, blind, intolerant Liberal. An elite(Yeah, I said it, and NO I don't watch Fox News) Liberal. "Look at me, I live in the city, I'm an environmentalist, I believe in saving space, aren't I great?" You come off as one of those people who HOPES the South fails. Who cheers for a regions demise?
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Old 07-24-2011, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Denver
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For me I found the city attractive all around. I don't think you comprehend that people can enjoy the BUILT ENVIRONMENT of Atlanta as well.
That's fine. I can comprehend that...I'm just saying most urbanophiles aren't going to feel the same way.

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I can also fully appreciate the beauty of cities like New York, Boston, etc
I'm glad to hear that. I don't dislike Atlanta whatsoever...I actually like the city. However I just don't find its built environment to be great. For some reason, according to some that makes me ignorant.
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Old 07-24-2011, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Up on the moon laughing down on you
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Jeez guys, come on. Are you guys unable to process simple things? Architecture & Streetscape = buildings and their layout in an environment. It refers to only the built environment, so I don't know why you're even saying things like this:
are you not able to process that the architecture alone does not make a city, it is a combination of the architecture and the green space.

what I said was not in reference to the post you quoted, so stop trying and act like it was. What I quoted was this
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Highway enthusiasts would certainly agree with you.
You are implying that road enthusiasts would agree that ATL is not ugly and I said it was the trees that made me think so not the roads.

You are twisting my posts to fit a quote of yours I never touched.
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Old 07-24-2011, 05:21 PM
 
Location: The Lakes
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I'm no conservative, and there's nothing wrong with being pro education, but you come off as some annoying proud, blind, intolerant Liberal. An elite(Yeah, I said it, and NO I don't watch Fox News) Liberal. "Look at me, I live in the city, I'm an environmentalist, I believe in saving space, aren't I great?" You come off as one of those people who HOPES the South fails. Who cheers for a regions demise?
I do. Maybe it'll correct the profit-driven market into taking a more fiscally and environmentally sustainable path.

I don't live in a city. I'm working on that step.
I'm not an environmentalist by any means but I do believe in responsibility by both man, corporation, and municipality in developing in environmentally responsible ways. I'm not gonna cry about global warming or anything, but some of this **** is just unnecessary.
I do believe in saving space. We're a country that is fat and unhealthy, dependent on oil, and geared towards the shrinking middle class and thriving upper class. I'd like to see that fixed. I'd like to see cities develop into places one can live once gas hits $16 per gallon in my grandchildrens' lifetimes.

It's not all about us or our current generation, Mr. "SUSTAINABILITY? YOU MUST BE LIBERAL! THAT'S A BAD THING, BY THE WAY". Quit being selfish and cheering on the irresponsible and I'll quit cheering for them to get what's coming to them.
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Old 07-24-2011, 05:33 PM
 
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The south.

Then this country could catch up to the rest of the developed world without so many education cutting conservatives and pro-sprawl planning practices draining federal and state funds.
News to me Inner cities have better schools than suburbs since when?
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Old 07-24-2011, 05:41 PM
 
Location: The Lakes
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News to me Inner cities have better schools than suburbs since when?
Who said that?

On that note, many inner cities do have better schools than their suburbs. I know Minneapolis has some great ones. Lexington, KY's schools are absolutely outstanding while those of the surrounding communities lack a lot. It's all about maintaining the middle class, tax paying land owners in the cities. Pro-sprawl policy degrades that. Thank you for reinforcing my point.
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Old 07-24-2011, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Savannah GA
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UKUKUK sounds like a Communist to me ...
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Old 07-24-2011, 07:08 PM
 
Location: The Lakes
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Do you even know what communism is? Even so, if you did, that wouldn't be a bad thing necessarily.

You don't live in a capitalist country. You don't live in a socialist country. You don't live in a communist country. You live in a system that mixes elements of all three and has been successful just as much for the capitalist elements as the communist elements or socialized elements.

...but you're really proving my point as to why we should separate from the south.
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Old 07-24-2011, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Denver
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are you not able to process that the architecture alone does not make a city, it is a combination of the architecture and the green space.
I don't even know what to say anymore. No matter what I say, you make up your own criteria and pretend we've been arguing about it.

When have I ever said these cities as a whole were bad?

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what I said was not in reference to the post you quoted, so stop trying and act like it was. What I quoted was this
But you're still missing the big picture. I said the bit about the trees one or two posts prior, so there was no point in even saying that.

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You are twisting my posts to fit a quote of yours I never touched.
I'm twisting your posts? That's rich. Stop eating peyote.

This is the best way to sum up our posting history in this thread. Fast forward the clip to 7:00. I am the players who are playing normally, you are Frank Drebin, the Umpire.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfH-E...eature=related

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Old 07-24-2011, 07:20 PM
 
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Do you even know what communism is? Even so, if you did, that wouldn't be a bad thing necessarily.

You don't live in a capitalist country. You don't live in a socialist country. You don't live in a communist country. You live in a system that mixes elements of all three and has been successful just as much for the capitalist elements as the communist elements or socialized elements.

...but you're really proving my point as to why we should separate from the south.
be quiet your from the UK what do you know about the US.
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