is northern california the equivalent of upstate new york and downstate illinois?
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A couple of things:
1) Nobody said "graduate schools" only -- Your quote was "2 of the finest universities", you are moving goal posts as usual to support your assertions.
2) Several rankings including the Times of London Ranking of Higher Education" has Cal Tech ranked #1
3) You have not highlighted USC or UCLA in most of the rankings even though they are "So Cal".
1. So your not going to concede that Cal and Stanford have the most substantial highly regarded grad schools-not a shock. BTW, I gladly conceded that Cal Tech is among the best.
2. I only highlighted the top 2 CA schools in each ranking.
Furthermore, with respect to rankings of undergrad schools, I have a hard time accepting fluff such as class size, alumni giving as real criteria. Academics are really the most important things to me and the criteria of the ranking below really separates the men from the boys imo.
Academic Ranking of World Universities, 2010
1 Harvard 2 U. California, Berkeley 3 Stanford U.
4 MIT
5 Cambridge U.(UK)
7 Princeton U.
8 Columbia U.
9 U. Chicago
10 Oxford U.
11 Yale U.
12 Cornell U.
13 U. California, Los Angeles
14 U. California, San Diego
15 U. Pennsylvania
16 U. Washington, Seattle
17 U. Wisconsin, Madison
18 Johns Hopkins U.
18 U. California, San Francisco
20 U. Tokyo
21 U. College London
22 U. Michigan, Ann Arbor
23 Swiss Federal Institute of Tech, Zurich
24 Kyoto U.
25 U. Illnois, Urbana-Champaign
26 Imperial College of Science, Tech and Medicine(UK)
27 U. Toronto
28 U. Minnesota, Twin Cities
29 Northwestern U.
30 Washington U. in St Louis
31 New York U.
32 U. California, Santa Barbara
32 U. Colorado, Boulder
34 Rockefeller U.
35 Duke U.
36 U. British Columbia
36 U. Maryland, College Park
38 U. Texas, Austin
39 Pierre & Marie Curie U., Paris
40 U. Copenhagen
41 U. North Carolina, Chapel Hill
42 Karolinska U.
43 Pennsylvania State U., University Park
44 U. Manchester(UK)
45 U. Paris Sud
46 U. California, Davis
46 U. Southern California
49 U. Texas Southwestern Medical Center, Dallas
50 Utrecht U. ARWU 2010
You are free to disagree, but I wont change my mind.
What's funny is that the past two posts have been bashing Southern California, LOL!
It's even more telling that none of the LA posters have come up and said anything about it. It really is quite telling.
i.e. Huge Foodie 215 is trolling, trying to instigate a flame war between Californians.
Yeah, we know.
Quote:
Remember Northern Californians: the big 3 cities are NYC, LA, and CHI. You are nowhere to be found.
bwahahahahahaha....SF is certainly found here:
Originally Posted by 18Montclair San Francisco is among the most influential cities in the world.
THE WORLD'S MOST WELL ROUNDED CITIES by GaWC released in 2004
Five levels of global city are identified. First, and clearly above all others, there are London and New York. All previous research has highlighted the dominance of these two cities in the world city hierarchy (Taylor 2004a) and they emerge here as the most important 'all-round' global contributors. They are followed by three cities that make smaller all-round contribution and with particular cultural strengths: Los Angeles, Paris and San Francisco. Finally, among 'all-rounders' there are seven incipient world cities identified in Table 11. In the second category of global niche cities, the three leading Pacific Asian cities are critical economic nodes in the world city network and there are also three critical nodes that are non-economic: Brussels, Geneva and Washington, DC. Thus a total of 18 cities are deemed to be global, actual or incipient.
The remaining world cities encompass articulator and niche cities. The former are focussed upon subnets and there are 13 distributed between the three non-economic spheres. Classic examples are Vienna at the centre of a UN agency subnet and Nairobi at the centre of a NGO subnet. There are 21niche world cities identified of which seven have important concentrations of economic activities and 14 concentrations of non-economic activities. Frankfurt is typical of the first group with its concentration of banks while Manila is typical of the second group with its concentration of NGOs.
These two sets of cities represent the upper echelons of the hierarchical tendencies in world city networks. To reiterate a point made in the introduction, they do not encompass all globalization processes, all cities
GLOBAL as so involved, but they are the key locales that network formation agents are using in their everyday activities that are creating world city networks. CITIES
Well rounded global Very large contribution: London and New York Smaller contribution and with cultural bias: Los Angeles, Paris and San Francisco
ii Incipient global cities: Amsterdam, Boston, Chicago, Madrid, Milan, Moscow, Toronto
Global niche cities - specialised global contributions
i Economic: Hong Kong, Singapore, and Tokyo
ii Political and social: Brussels, Geneva, and Washington
WORLD CITIES
Subnet articulator cities
i Cultural: Berlin, Copenhagen, Melbourne, Munich, Oslo, Rome, Stockholm Political: Bangkok, Beijing, Vienna
ii Social: Manila, Nairobi, Ottawa
Worldwide leading cities
i Primarily economic global contributions: Frankfurt, Miami, Munich, Osaka, Singapore, Sydney, Zurich
ii Primarily non-economic global contributions: Abidjan, Addis Ababa, Atlanta, Basle, Barcelona, Cairo, Denver, Harare, Lyon, Manila, Mexico City, Mumbai, New Delhi, Shanghai
1. So your not going to concede that Cal and Stanford have the most substantial highly regarded grad schools-not a shock. BTW, I gladly conceded that Cal Tech is among the best.
2. I only highlighted the top 2 CA schools in each ranking.
Furthermore, with respect to rankings of undergrad schools, I have a hard time accepting fluff such as class size, alumni giving as real criteria. Academics are really the most important things to me and the criteria of the ranking below really separates the men from the boys imo.
Academic Ranking of World Universities, 2010
1 Harvard 2 U. California, Berkeley 3 Stanford U.
4 MIT
5 Cambridge U.(UK)
7 Princeton U.
8 Columbia U.
9 U. Chicago
10 Oxford U.
11 Yale U.
12 Cornell U.
13 U. California, Los Angeles
14 U. California, San Diego
15 U. Pennsylvania
16 U. Washington, Seattle
17 U. Wisconsin, Madison
18 Johns Hopkins U.
18 U. California, San Francisco
20 U. Tokyo
21 U. College London
22 U. Michigan, Ann Arbor
23 Swiss Federal Institute of Tech, Zurich
24 Kyoto U.
25 U. Illnois, Urbana-Champaign
26 Imperial College of Science, Tech and Medicine(UK)
27 U. Toronto
28 U. Minnesota, Twin Cities
29 Northwestern U.
30 Washington U. in St Louis
31 New York U.
32 U. California, Santa Barbara
32 U. Colorado, Boulder
34 Rockefeller U.
35 Duke U.
36 U. British Columbia
36 U. Maryland, College Park
38 U. Texas, Austin
39 Pierre & Marie Curie U., Paris
40 U. Copenhagen
41 U. North Carolina, Chapel Hill
42 Karolinska U.
43 Pennsylvania State U., University Park
44 U. Manchester(UK)
45 U. Paris Sud
46 U. California, Davis
46 U. Southern California
49 U. Texas Southwestern Medical Center, Dallas
50 Utrecht U. ARWU 2010
You are free to disagree, but I wont change my mind.
1. I am pointing out (again) that your statement that Cal and Stanford are the "finest schools in the Western Hemisphere" is patently false, at least as rated by some rankings. You, of course, do not acknowledge that potentially Cal Tech is better than Stanford and Cal, at least as measured by some ratings.
2. I'm sure it's just an "oversight" that UCLA wasn't highlighted in the primary care or fine arts categories. It's funny how these things happen.
And finally, it is very apparent to everyone here that you disagree with "fluff" that does not support your assertions. After all, what point is a ranking if it does not say that the Bay Area is the most/best/greatest/richest.... blah blah blah...
After all, in your words, no wonder you are "cocky"....
(oh and btw Cal and Stanford are fantastic schools).
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