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Old 11-17-2007, 05:06 PM
 
Location: manhattan
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Of course your neighborhood is clean and beautiful, you live in Manhattan. I'd guess its not Uptown Manhattan either. Take a trip to the slums of Uptown and the Bronx....tell me me if it's spotless. Where I live it sure as hell aint.

ANd Hustla's no idiot. Have more respect.
Why in God's name would I venture to the ghetto?

I don't know or care dirty the ghetto's look like; aren't all ghettos supposed to be disgusting anyway?

It's so easy to avoid the ghettos living in Manhattan, but when I lived in Los Angeles I had to drive through nasty parts to get to where I'm going sometimes and it was just sad.
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Old 11-17-2007, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Uniquely Individual Villages of the Megalopolis
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The reason why there are no public stalls in NYC is when the city experimented with the idea about a decade ago, they got sued for violating the Americans with Disabilities Act because they were not wheelchair accessible. And it was not practical to make them so -- they would have to be so big as to completely block sidewalks. I'm all for making reasonable accommodations for the disabled, but sometimes the disability advocates forget that "reasonable" is part of the equation. And I don't think it's reasonable to deny 98% percent of the population the use of public stalls which 100% of the city would benefit from (cleaner, more sanitary city) because 2% of the population can't use them.
I agree and while Bloomie is always over in London getting directions for what he should do in NYC and sucking up to the Brits as if he they're going to give him funding for all his proposals such as added surveillance, how to have cellular service in the mta, etc, etc, he can ask them what they did with their disabled!! and go to Paris and elsewhere and ask the same thing.

I haven't ridden LA's new subway so I can't comment but have in other cities. However most of the time in other cities with or without subways you don't need restrooms in this country because businesses and buildings in general don't close them to the general public like they do in NYC

It would increase tourism and even make NY safer with more pedestrian traffic in the prime areas at least.
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Old 11-17-2007, 07:29 PM
 
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Dirtiest: Detroit

Cleanest: Nashville
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Old 11-17-2007, 11:33 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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Cleanest: small city? Key West big city? Denver.

Dirtiest: NYC, I though Dallas was bad I think you would have a tough time finding those pics in Dallas. Detroit would take my 2nd place.

i guess Dallas is a little worse then normal though: 50 Cleanest (Dirtiest) Cities in America
scoring above Memphis which really surprises me.

Edit: I was reading, if you meant international that is easy.

Cleanest: Probably Singapore

Dirtiest that I've Been to: Manila... BY GOD IS IT MANILA.

Paris isn't dirty, the French people just don't take pride in there city and literally let there dog crap all over the city. As a result their streets constantly small like Crap, how can you eat outside... NEXT TO A TREE????

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Old 11-17-2007, 11:47 PM
 
Location: FL
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Miami is the ONLY city to get a 50 on air!
(And those other bad scores are only Miami proper I'm sure... NMB has EXCELLENT water!!! )
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Old 11-18-2007, 12:08 AM
 
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Cleanest - Minneapolis
Dirtiest - New Orleans (pre Katrina)
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Old 11-18-2007, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Uniquely Individual Villages of the Megalopolis
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Cleanest: small city? Key West big city? Denver.

Dirtiest: NYC, I though Dallas was bad I think you would have a tough time finding those pics in Dallas. Detroit would take my 2nd place.

i guess Dallas is a little worse then normal though: 50 Cleanest (Dirtiest) Cities in America
scoring above Memphis which really surprises me.

Edit: I was reading, if you meant international that is easy.

Cleanest: Probably Singapore

Dirtiest that I've Been to: Manila... BY GOD IS IT MANILA.

Paris isn't dirty, the French people just don't take pride in there city and literally let there dog crap all over the city. As a result their streets constantly small like Crap, how can you eat outside... NEXT TO A TREE????


The times I've been to Dallas proper I thought rather than dirty it was just messy and jumbled. I think they might've straightened some things out by now.
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Old 11-18-2007, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Uniquely Individual Villages of the Megalopolis
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Originally Posted by CMDallas View Post
Cleanest: small city? Key West big city? Denver.

Dirtiest: NYC, I though Dallas was bad I think you would have a tough time finding those pics in Dallas. Detroit would take my 2nd place.

i guess Dallas is a little worse then normal though: 50 Cleanest (Dirtiest) Cities in America
scoring above Memphis which really surprises me.

Edit: I was reading, if you meant international that is easy.

Cleanest: Probably Singapore

Dirtiest that I've Been to: Manila... BY GOD IS IT MANILA.

Paris isn't dirty, the French people just don't take pride in there city and literally let there dog crap all over the city. As a result their streets constantly small like Crap, how can you eat outside... NEXT TO A TREE????


And of course NYC is at the very bottom of that list by RD.

So for "The Greatest City in the World" as NYers love to claim I suppose it in reality isn't so great when it comes time to use the bathroom. For that they'll tell you to use Mary Poppins' who lives in a penthouse on the Upper East Side.
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Old 11-18-2007, 12:56 PM
 
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After travelling all over Italy, I can honestly say that no city beside Milan is exactly clean. I didn't travel everywhere- just Rome, Venice, Florence, Milan, and Sienna. From the ones I visited, I found Venice to be the dirtiest, then Rome, Sienna, Florence, and Milan was the cleanest.

I agree with that list. When I visited San Jose, everything was clean. Santa Cruz was pretty clean for all the tourists they get. Las Vegas is definitely the most surprising-it's quite clean for the number of tourist, probably because everything is brand new. But that's mainly The Strip-in North Las Vegas where my grandparents live, it's a different story. Utica, NY is filthy. Boston was pretty clean. San Diego seems like one of the cleanest cities for its size.
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Old 11-18-2007, 01:24 PM
 
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I'm going to second Hustla in this and state that NYC is the filthiest city that I have ever seen. Because the buildings are so close, often with no alleys, trash piles like mountains outside your tiny apartment. Even in Calcutta the people understood that you throw garbage outside the city.

The smell of urine is omnipresent in every corner of the city. In all boroughs. I will never understand this. Where are all of these pedestrian urinators coming from?

However, it is the attitude which makes NYC so inherently dirty. People well and truly do not care about throwing trash on the ground, or throwing up on subways, or disposing of garbage wherever you happen to be.

In terms of cities and not areas, I think Chicago is the cleanest city that I have seen so far. I didn't appreciate alleyways until I moved back here. I didn't appreciate comprehensive sewer systems until I moved back here. I certainly never appreciated neighbors that felt guilty (even the ones that don't speak English!) for cooking if the aroma travels. I have a family of mad Russians that lives on the floor below me, and the father used to apologize weekly for the smell of cabbage (I told him to stop apologizing; it wasn't terrible and as long as they opened the windows it went away).

Every single day I see someone in this city pick up garbage from the ground and throw it away. Just passerby, even those with high-quality leather gloves. Hell, our businesspeople pick up trash if they see it. It's just what you do here.

I do believe that our mass transit is pretty dirty, however. Again, it still doesn't compare to the filth I regularly dealt with on the subways in NYC.
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