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View Poll Results: What is the Intellectual Capital of America?
Boston (including Cambridge) 76 49.67%
San Francisco Bay Area 29 18.95%
New York City 30 19.61%
Washington DC 18 11.76%
Voters: 153. You may not vote on this poll

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Unread 08-26-2011, 11:15 PM
 
Location: southwestern USA
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Why should one city or area be declared the intellectual capital of the country.

Also what does contitute intelligence? Is it cumulative IQ----is the total grade point average of a city---is it the total number of college graduates????

The number of graduates and academic institutions dont guarntee a city will be logical, sensical, provide good use of resources, or administer correctly.

A decent academic background helps, but so does common sense, community understanding and patience, and solid leadership.

Dont jump to conclusions about the intelligence of a city based upon the numbers of colleges or college graduates ect........your conclusions will often be wrong.
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Unread 08-26-2011, 11:41 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, California
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Seattle may have the most college graduates. Seattle can have as many college graduates as they want. That does not make Seattle the smartest city. Just because you work for Steve Ballmer at Microsoft, Jeff Besos at Amazon.com, or Howard Schultz at Starbucks, that does not make you smart. Try running your own successful business. Try making lots of money on Wall Street. Also, I find it very funny and ironic that Bill Gates who is arguably the smartest person in Seattle, did not graduate from college. So what does that tell you about being a college graduate? There are many successful millionaires out there who never completed college just like there are many people with college degrees who sit in cubicles 40 hours a week while taking crap from some jerk boss. So the college graduate argument is a joke.
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Unread 08-26-2011, 11:48 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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Seattle may have the most college graduates. Seattle can have as many college graduates as they want. That does not make Seattle the smartest city. Just because you work for Steve Ballmer at Microsoft, Jeff Besos at Amazon.com, or Howard Schultz at Starbucks, that does not make you smart. Try running your own successful business. Try making lots of money on Wall Street. Also, I find it very funny and ironic that Bill Gates who is arguably the smartest person in Seattle, did not graduate from college. So what does that tell you about being a college graduate? There are many successful millionaires out there who never completed college just like there are many people with college degrees who sit in cubicles 40 hours a week while taking crap from some jerk boss. So the college graduate argument is a joke.
On a city level, San Francisco and New York appear to be in their own league when it comes to a concentration of college grads relative to city size:

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/170884/DEGREED-CITIES.jpg
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Unread 08-27-2011, 05:26 AM
 
Location: Beverly Hills, CA
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This is totally a matter of opinion because it depends on how you define intellectual. In my opinion I would say that New York is the intellectual capital of America because New York seems to have the most intelligent people when it comes to business. When I think of intelligence I think of people who make lots of money and have lots of power. Anyone that is really and truly that smart should be rich in my opinion and New York seems to have more self-made wealthy people than any other city in the country. Someone who is really intelligent will figure out a way to become wealthy so that they can live their life with total freedom and be able to do whatever they want when they want. Someone who is truly intelligent probably won't want to spend most of their life working hard for someone elses dream. Also, there is a big difference between the classroom and the real world. Someone may be smart in a classroom but then they enter the real world and they can get crushed like a bug. There is definitely a big difference between book smarts and street smarts. There are more street smart people in New York than anywhere else. I will take a street smart person anyday of the week over a booksmart person. You can't hide in a classroom forever. Eventually you have to come out and compete with the big dogs in the real world. New York is where the most big dogs live. I love the previous comment from rotodome who is from Brooklyn.
No offense, but this is a pretty simplistic and naive way of looking at and quantifying intelligence. It sounds somewhat familiar, somehow...
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Unread 08-27-2011, 05:30 AM
 
Location: Texas
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LOL...who put NYC and DC in there? Shouldn't that be on the opposite list?
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Unread 08-27-2011, 05:32 AM
 
Location: Texas
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On a city level, San Francisco and New York appear to be in their own league when it comes to a concentration of college grads relative to city size:

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/170884/DEGREED-CITIES.jpg
True intelligence would demonstrate that the cities with higher population density have...duh...more degrees per square mile.

If you have 1500 people in the same 10 square feet, it's definitely going look like you have an embarrassment of intelligence riches.

D=m/v

This is provided that you truly believe that there is some correlation between true intelligence and a college degree.

Frankly, I don't think paying $600 a square foot to live underneath some stomping neighbors is all that intelligent. But to each their own.
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Unread 08-27-2011, 05:43 AM
 
Location: Beverly Hills, CA
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True intelligence would demonstrate that the cities with higher population density have...duh...more degrees per square mile.

If you have 1500 people in the same 10 square feet, it's definitely going look like you have an embarrassment of intelligence riches.

D=m/v

This is provided that you truly believe that there is some correlation between true intelligence and a college degree.

Frankly, I don't think paying $600 a square foot to live underneath some stomping neighbors is all that intelligent. But to each their own.
But paying $600/sq ft to live in a city that has world-class libraries and a large intellectual community drawn to an economy that revolves around the sciences, medicine, and engineering, and the amenities and resources that it brings is a no-brainer to many very intelligent people.

Just sayin'.
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Unread 08-27-2011, 05:50 AM
 
Location: Texas
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But paying $600/sq ft to live in a city that has world-class libraries and a large intellectual community drawn to an economy that revolves around the sciences, medicine, and engineering, and the amenities and resources that it brings is a no-brainer to many very intelligent people.

Just sayin'.
Lol...seriously?

And which amenities and resources can you get there that you can't get elsewhere (in this day and age) that makes it worth the pain of having to live in such close quarters?

I'm not panning these 'great' cities...I'm just saying that many people wouldn't find those living conditions tolerable.

Listen...I have a doctorate. I've been to the 'top schools.' I've lived overseas and traveled the world rather extensively. All these 'great' places are vastly overrated, in my experience. But that doesn't mean that people can't love to live there. They are just not in any way objectively better.
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Unread 08-27-2011, 05:55 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Why should one city or area be declared the intellectual capital of the country.
Because this is a silly contentious forum where this kind of stuff is all that people do?
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Unread 08-27-2011, 05:56 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Because this is a silly contentious forum where this kind of stuff is all that people do?
Naw. Because the rest of us hicks have to go somewhere to get our 'intellectual stimulation' and 'cultural exposure.'

LOL.
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