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Old 03-03-2012, 02:22 AM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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LA 99.1 percent?
Absolute poppycock if you ask me.
Says the guy trapped in Orange County.
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Old 03-03-2012, 01:09 PM
 
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And yet they still want to keep jacking fares up up up...
I haven't heard of a CTA fare hike in the works.
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Old 03-03-2012, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Inglewood, CA
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Did you notice that train ridership is up huge on the CTA over last year? I'm curious why.
Had they been doing lots of repairs? When lines are often closed on weekends and nights, it drags down ridership because people start to see them as unreliable. Once repairs are finished, ridership climbs back to normal.

I'm surprised that Chicago is so high. I had been predicting that LA would catch Chicago by 2025, but that was based on Chicago staying flat or nearly flat. The CTA will now need to lose riders for LACMTA to catch it.
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Old 03-03-2012, 01:30 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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Had they been doing lots of repairs? When lines are often closed on weekends and nights, it drags down ridership because people start to see them as unreliable. Once repairs are finished, ridership climbs back to normal.

I'm surprised that Chicago is so high. I had been predicting that LA would catch Chicago by 2025, but that was based on Chicago staying flat or nearly flat. The CTA will now need to lose riders for LACMTA to catch it.
The L's expansion plans and possibilities include extensions of existing heavy railes lines, the conversion of a commuter rail to heavy rail, and a heavy rail circle line that would add stops and allow completely different commute patterns--these are a lot more ambitious, I feel, than LA's which focuses less on heavy rail and more on light rail. So if CTA gets going on those plans, then it would probably leave a lot of the other cities in the dust (especially the circle line). Unfortunately, they don't have dedicated funding for most of these lines and Chicago's population seems to be more or less stagnant, so who knows.
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Old 03-03-2012, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Inglewood, CA
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The L's expansion plans and possibilities include extensions of existing heavy railes lines, the conversion of a commuter rail to heavy rail, and a heavy rail circle line that would add stops and allow completely different commute patterns--these are a lot more ambitious, I feel, than LA's which focuses less on heavy rail and more on light rail. So if CTA gets going on those plans, then it would probably leave a lot of the other cities in the dust (especially the circle line). Unfortunately, they don't have dedicated funding for most of these lines and Chicago's population seems to be more or less stagnant, so who knows.
Heavy rail makes a lot of sense for Chicago, but in some areas maybe light rail might make sense. Are there any light rail advocates in Chicago? Even NYC has quite a few. Especially on Staten Island where they want to connect to the HBLR. Also in Queens and even in Manhattan.
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Old 03-03-2012, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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I haven't heard of a CTA fare hike in the works.
They just floated a trial balloon that included serious fare hikes. Metra just jaked theirs up pretty substantially. To be fair, much if not most of that is attributable to state budget shortfalls. But it's still kind of aggravating.
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Old 03-03-2012, 02:26 PM
 
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They just floated a trial balloon that included serious fare hikes. Metra just jaked theirs up pretty substantially. To be fair, much if not most of that is attributable to state budget shortfalls. But it's still kind of aggravating.
the MBTA was suppose to raise fares, but for now they are putting the surplus snow removal money that wasn't used in the the MBTA.
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Old 03-04-2012, 08:28 PM
 
Location: New York
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LA with the biggest? I find that so hard to believe since people mostly have cars. I have honestly never seen any subways there, just buses. If I'm not mistaken, NYC has the largest public transportation system in the US?
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Old 03-04-2012, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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LA with the biggest? I find that so hard to believe since people mostly have cars. I have honestly never seen any subways there, just buses. If I'm not mistaken, NYC has the largest public transportation system in the US?
Last I checked buses are public transit. There are two subway lines and four light rail lines in LA.
Reread the article... It simply says in the LA metro area nearly everyone has access to PT, more than any other MSA. It doesn't say LA has the best, that is obviously NY.
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Old 03-04-2012, 08:45 PM
 
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Had they been doing lots of repairs? When lines are often closed on weekends and nights, it drags down ridership because people start to see them as unreliable. Once repairs are finished, ridership climbs back to normal.

I'm surprised that Chicago is so high. I had been predicting that LA would catch Chicago by 2025, but that was based on Chicago staying flat or nearly flat. The CTA will now need to lose riders for LACMTA to catch it.
Nope, nothing significant. Looks like real growth in ridership.
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