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Old 08-31-2011, 03:58 PM
 
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Law Schools also follow the same pattern

1. NY- 15 ABA Law Schools
2. California- 15
3. Texas-9
4. Illinois-9
5. pennsylvania- 8

Texas seem to be in the top 5 for Tier one Universities, Top 5 for Med Schools, Top 5 For law schools. I dunno why people would say it is lacking in higher education




I listed AAMS accredited med schools. tell me which ones I missed.
Ok has to with the AAMS, Dr of Osteopathy is not included in that list - meaning DO's a slightly different more holistic MD, non AMA physician

PCOM is one example

Philadelphia College of Osteopathic Medicine
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Old 08-31-2011, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Someone mentioned grad schools? Here are USNWRs ranking of grad schools. Notice how they can't deny the elite public universities at the grad level like they do in the undergrad level cause there is no fluff in the grad school ranking. Its all a delicious irony really.

Anyway, CA schools in BLUE:


2011 US News and World Report Graduate School Rankings

Top Business Schools
1 Stanford
2 Harvard
3-tied MIT(Sloan)
3-tied Pennsylvania(Wharton)
5-tied Northwestern(Kellogg)
5-tied U. Chicago(Booth)
7-tied Dartmouth(Tuck)
7-tied UC Berkeley(Haas)
9 Columbia
10-tied NYU(Stern)
10-tied Yale
12 Duke(Fuqua)
14-tied UCLA(Anderson)
14-tied Michigan, Ann Arbor(Ross)
16 Cornell(Johnson)
17 Texas, Austin(McCombs)
18 Carnegie Mellon(Tepper)
19 North Carolina, Chapel Hill(Kenan-Flagler)
20 Washington U, St Louis(Olin)
21-tied Minnesota, Twin Cities(Carlson)
21-tied USC(Marshall)
23-tied Emory(Goizueta)
23-tied Indiana U, Bloomington(Kelley)
25 Georgetown(McDonough)

Top Law Schools
1 Yale
2 Harvard
3 Stanford
4 Columbia
5 U. Chicago
6 NYU
7-tied Michigan, Ann Arbor
7-tied Pennsylvania
9-tied UC Berkeley
9-tied Virginia
11 Duke
12 Northwestern
13 Cornell
14-tied Georgetown
14-tied Texas, Austin
16-tied UCLA
16-tied Vanderbilt
18-tied USC
18-tied Washington U., St Louis
20-tied George Washington
20-tied Minnesota, Twin Cities
22 Boston
23-tied Indiana, Bloomington
23-tied UC Davis
23 Illinois, Urbana-Champaign

Top Medical(Research) Schools
1 Harvard
2 Pennsylvania
3 Johns Hopkins
4 Washington U., St Louis
5-tied Duke
5-tied Stanford
5-tied UC San Francisco
5-tied Yale
9 Washington(Seattle)
10-tied Columbia
10-tied Michigan, Ann Arbor
12 U. Chicago
13 UCLA
14 U. Pittsburgh
15-tied UC San Diego
15-tied Vanderbilt
17 Cornell
18 Mt Sinai School of Medicine, NYC
19 Northwestern
20 North Carolina, Chapel Hill
21 Emory
22-tied Baylor(Houston)
22-tied Case Western
22-tied U. Texas Southwestern(Dallas)
22-tied Virginia

Top Medical(Primary Care) Schools
1 Washington(Seattle)
2 North Carolina, Chapel Hill
3 Oregon Health & Science
4-tied UC San Francisco
4-tied Colorado, Aurora
6 Minnesota
7 Nebraska
8 Massachusetts
9 Pennsylvania
10-tied East Carolina
10-tied Alabama
10-tied Iowa
10-tied Wisconsin
14 Michigan State
15 Harvard
16 Johns Hopkins
16-tied Morehouse
16-tied UCLA
20-tied Michigan, Ann Arbor
20-tied North Texas Health Science
20-tied Vermont
20-tied Virginia
24 Indiana, Indianapolis
25 Texas, Austin

Top Engineering Schools
1 MIT
2 Stanford
3 UC Berkeley
4 George Tech
5 Illinois, Urbana-Champaign
6 Carnegie Mellon
7 Cal Tech
8 Texas, Austin
9 Michigan, Ann Arbor
10 Cornell
11-tied Purdue
11-tied USC
13 Texas A&M
14-tied UCLA
14-tied UC San Diego
16-tied Columbia
16-tied Wisconsin
18-tied Harvard
18-tied Princeton
20 Nothwestern
21 UC Santa Barbara
22-tied Maryland, College Park
22-tied Pennsylvania
24 Virginia Tech
25 Penn State

Science
Top Biological Sciences School
1 Stanford
2-tied Harvard
2-tied MIT
2-tied UC Berkeley
5 Cal Tech
7-tied
7-tied Scripps Institute(San Diego)
7-tied UC San Francisco
7-tied Yale
11-tied Cornell
11-tied Washington U. St Louis
13-tied Duke
13-tied U. Chicago
15-tied Columbia
15-tied Rockefeller U.(New York)
15-tied UC San Diego
15-tied Washington(Seattle)
15-tied Wisconsin
20-tied UC Davis
20-tied Michigan, Ann Arbor
20-tied Pennsylvania
20-tied U. Texas Southwestern(Dallas)
24-tied UCLA
24-tied North Carolina, Chapel Hill

Science
Top Chemistry Schools
1-tied Cal Tech
1-tied MIT
1-tied UC Berkeley
4-tied Harvard
4-tied Stanford
6 Illinois, Urbana-Champaign
7-tied Northwestern
7-tied Scripps Institute(San Diego)
7-tied Wisconsin
10-tied Columbia
10-tied Cornell
12 Texas, Austin
13-tied U. Chicago
13-tied North Carolina, Chapel Hill
13-tied Yale
16-tied Princeton
16-tied UCLA
16-tied Michigan, Ann Arbor
19-tied Texas A&M
19-tied Pennsylvania
21-tied Johns Hopkins
21-tied Penn State
21-tied Purdue
21-tied UC San Diego
21-tied Minnesota, Twin Cities

Science
Top Earth Sciences Schools
1-tied Cal Tech
1-tied MIT
3 UC Berkeley
4 Stanford
5 Columbia
6 Penn State
7 Arizona
8 Harvard
9-tied Princeton
9-tied Michigan, Ann Arbor
9-tied Texas, Austin
12 Yale
13-tied Cornell
13-tied UC Santa Cruz
13-tied Washington(Seattle)
13-tied Wisconsin
17-tied Arizona State
17-tied Brown
17-tied UC Davis
17-tied UCLA
17-tied UC San Diego
17-tied U. Chicago
23-tied UC Santa Barbara
23-tied Colorado, Boulder
25 Colorado School of Mines

Science
Top Mathematics Schools
1 MIT
2-tied Harvard
2-tied Princeton
2-tied Stanford
2-tied UC Berkeley
6 U. Chicago
7 Cal Tech
8-tied UCLA
8-tied Michigan, Ann Arbor
10-tied Columbia
10-tied NYU
10-tied Yale
13-Cornell
14-tied Brown
14-tied Texas, Austin
16-tied Northwestern
16-tied Wisconsin
18-tied Minnesota, Twin Cities
18-tied Pennsylvania
20-tied Rutgers
20-tied UC San Diego
20-tied Illinois, Urbana-Champaign
20-tied Maryland, College Park
24-tied Duke
24-tied Johns Hopkins

Science
Top Physics Schools
1-tied Cal Tech
1-tied Harvard
1-tied MIT
1-tied Stanford
5-tied Princeton
5-tied UC Berkeley
7-tied Cornell
7-tied U. Chicago
9 Illinois, Urbana-Champaign
10 UC Santa Barbara
11-tied Columbia
11-tied Michigan,Ann Arbor
11-tied Yale
14-tied UC San Diego
14-tied Maryland, College Park
14-tied Texas, Austin
17-tied Wisconsin
19-tied Johns Hopkins
19-tied UCLA
19-tied Colorado, Boulder
19-tied Washington(Seattle)
23-tied Ohio State
23-tied Penn State
23-tied SUNY, Stony Brook

Science
Top Statistics Schools
1 Stanford
2 UC Berkeley
3-tied Harvard(Boston)
3-tied Washington(Seattle)
5 Johns Hopkins
6-tied Harvard(Cambridge)
6-tied U. Chicago
6-Washington(Seattle-BioStats)
9 Carnegie Mellon
10-tied Duke
10-tied North Carolina, Chapel Hill
12-tied North Carolina State(Raleigh)
12-tied Texas A&M
12-tied Michigan, Ann Arbor
12-tied Pennsylvania
17-tied UC Berkeley(BioStats)
17-tied Michigan, Ann Arbor(BioStats)
17-tied Minnesota, Twin Cities
20-tied Iowa State
20-tied Penn State
22-tied Columbia
22-tied Cornell
22-tied Purdue
22-tied Minnesota, Twin cities(BioStats)

Top Library and Information Studies Schools
1-tied Illinois, Urbana-Champaign
1-tied North Carolina, Chapel Hill
3 Syracuse
4 Washington(Seattle)
5 Michigan, Ann Arbor
6 Rutgers(New Brunswick)
7 Indiana, Bloomington
8 Texas, Austin
9 Drexel
10-tied Simmons College(Boston)
10-tied Maryland, College Park
10-tied Pittsburgh
10-tied Wisconsin
14-tied Florida State
14-tied UCLA
16 Wisconsin, Milwaukee
17-tied North Texas(Denton)
17-tied South Carolina
17-tied Tennessee, Knoxville
20-tied Kent State
20-tied Wayne State(Detroit)
22-tied Louisiana State
22-tied San Jose State
23 Oklahoma

Social Sciences & Humanities
Top Criminology Schools
1 Maryland, College Park
2 SUNY, Albany
3 U. Cincinnati
4 Missouri, St Louis
5-tied Penn State
5-tied UC Irvine
7-tied Florida State
7-tied Michigan State
7-tied Rutgers(Newark)
10 CUNY John Jay(New York)
11 Temple(Philadelphia)
12-tied Arizona State
12-tied Northeastern(Boston)
12-tied Florida, Gainesville
12-tied Pennsylvania
16 Delaware
17-tied George Mason
17-tied Nebraska, Omaha
19-tied American(Washington DC)
10-tied Illiois, Chicago
19-tied Washington State
22-tied Indiana, Bloomington
22-tied Sam Houston State
25 South Carolina

Social Sciences & Humanities
Top Economics Schools
1-tied Harvard
1-tied MIT
1-tied Princeton
1-tied U. Chicago
5 Stanford
6-tied UC Berkeley
6-tied Yale
8 Northwestern
9 Pennsylvania
10-tied Columbia
10-tied Minnesota, Twin Cities
12-tied NYU
12-tied Michigan, Ann Arbor
14-tied Cal Tech
14-tied UCLA
14-tied UC San Diego
14-tied Wisconsin
18 Cornell
19-tied Brown
19-tied Carnegie Mellon
19-tied Duke
22-tied Maryland, College Park
22-tied Rochester
24 Boston
25 Johns Hopkins

Social Sciences & Humanities
Top English Schools
1 UC Berkeley
2-tied Stanford
2-tied Yale
4-tied Columbia
4-tied Harvard
4-tied Pennsylvania
7-tied Cornell
7-tied Princeton
7-tied U. Chicago
10-tied Duke
10-tied UCLA
10-tied Virginia
13-tied Brown
13-tied Johns Hopkins
13-tied Michigan, Ann Arbor
16 North Carolina, Chapel Hill
17-tied Rutgers(New Brunswick)
17-tied Texas, Austin
17-tied Wisconsin
20-tied NYU
20-tied Northwestern
22-tied CUNY Graduate School(New York)
22-tied Indiana, Bloomington
22-tied UC Irvine
22-tied Illinois, Urbana-Champaign

Social Sciences & Humanities
Top History Schools
1-tied Princeton
1-tied Stanford
1-tied UC Berkeley
1-tied Yale
5-tied Harvard
5-tied U. Chicago
7-tied Columbia
7-tied Michigan, Ann Arbor
9-tied Johns Hopkins
9-tied UCLA
9-tied Pennsylvania
12-tied Cornell
12-tied North Carolina, chapel Hill
14-tied Duke
14-tied Northwestern
14-tied Wisconsin
17-tied Brown
17-tied NYU
17-tied Texas, Austin
20-tied Rutgers(New Brunswick)
20-tied Virginia
22-tied Indiana, Bloomington
22-tied Illinois, Urbana-Champaign
24-tied Ohio State
24-tied Minnesota, Twin Cities

Social Sciences & Humanities
Top Political Science Schools
1-tied Harvard
1-tied Princeton
1-tied Stanford
4 Michigan, Ann Arbor
5 Yale
6 UC Berkeley
7-tied Columbia
7-tied UC San Diego
9-tied Duke
9-tied MIT
11-tied UCLA
11-tied U. Chicago
13-tied North Carolina, Chapel Hill
13-tied Washington U., St Louis
15-tied Rochester
15-tied Wisconsin
17-tied NYU
17-tied Ohio State
17-tied Minnesota, Twin Cities
20 Cornell
21-tied Northwestern
21-tied Illinois, Urbana-Champaign
21-tied Texas, Austin
24-tied Texas A&M
24-tied UC Irvine

Social Sciences & Humanities
Top Psychology Schools
1-tied Stanford
1-tied UC Berkeley
3-tied Harvard
3-tied UCLA
3-tied Michigan, Ann Arbor
3-tied Yale
7 Illinois, Urbana-Champaign
8-tied Princeton
8-tied Minnesota, Twin Cities
8-tied Wisconsin
11-tied MIT
11-tied Pennsylvania
13-tied North Carolina, Chapel Hill
13-tied Texas, Austin
13-tied Washington(Seattle)
13-tied Washington U., St Louis
17-tied Columbia
17-tied Carnegie Mellon
17-tied Cornell
17-tied UC San Diego
23-tied Duke
23-tied Indiana, Bloomington
23-tied Johns Hopkins

Social Sciences & Humanities
Top Sociology Schools
1 UC Berkeley
2 Wisconsin
3-tied Princeton
3-tied Michigan, Ann Arbor
5-tied Harvard
5-tied Stanford
5-tied U. Chicago
5-tied North Carolina, Chapel Hill
9-tied Northwestern
9-tied UCLA
11-tied Columbia
11-tied Indiana, Bloomington
11-tied Pennsylvania
14-tied Duke
14-tied NYU
14-tied Texas, Austin
17-tied Cornell
17-tied Ohio State
17-tied Washington(Seattle)
20-tied Arizona
20-tied Maryland, College Park
20-tied Minnesota, Twin Cities
20-tied Yale
25 Brown

Top Public Affairs Schools
1 Syracuse
2-tied Harvard
2-tied Indiana, Bloomington
4-tied Princeton
4-tied Georgia, Atlanta
6 UC Berkeley
7-tied Kansas
7-tied Michigan, Ann Arbor
7-tied USC
10-tied Carnegie Mellon
10-tied Duke
10-tied NYU
10-tied U. Chicago
14-tied American(Washington DC)
14-tied George Washington
14-tied SUNY, Albany
14-tied UCLA
14-tied Minnesota, Twin Cities
14-tied North Carolina, Chapel Hill
14-tied Texas, Austin
14-tied Washington(Seattle)
14-tied Wisconsin
25 Arizona State

Health
Top Clinical Psychology Schools
1-tied UCLA
1-tied Washington(Seattle)
1-tied Wisconsin
4-tied UC Berkeley
4-tied Minnesota, Twin Cities
6-tied Indiana, Bloomington
6-tied North Carolina, Chapel Hill
6-tied Yale
9-tied Duke
9-tied Penn State
9-tied SUNY, Stony Brook
9-tied Illinois, Urbana-Champaign
9-tied Pittsburgh
16-tied Kansas
16-tied USC
16-tied Texas, Austin
16-tied Vanderbilt
16-tied Washington U., St Louis
22-tied Arizona State
22-tied Northwestern
22-tied Arizona
25 Emory

Health
Top Nursing Schools
1-tied Johns Hopkins
1-tied Pennsylvania
1-tied Washington(Seattle)
4-tied UC San Francisco
4-tied North Carolina, Chapel Hill
6 Michigan, Ann Arbor
7-tied Duke
7-tied Oregon Health & Science
7-tied Pittsburgh
7-tied Yale
11-tied U. Chicago
11-tied Iowa
11-tied Maryland, Baltimore
11-tied North Carolina, Chapel Hill
15-tied Case Western
15-tied Indiana/ Purdue, Indianapolis
15-tied Rush( Chicago)
15-tied Colorado, Denver
15-tied Virginia
15-tied Vanderbilt
21-tied Arizona State
21-tied Boston College
21-tied Columbia
21-tied Emory
21-tied NYU

Health
Top Pharmacy Schools
1 UC San Francisco
2 North Carolina, Chapel Hill
3 Minnesota, Minneapolis
4 Texas, Austin
5-tied Ohio State
5-tied Kentucky
5-tied Michigan, Ann Arbor
5-tied Washington(Seattle)
9-tied Purdue
9-tied Arizona
9-tied Florida, Gainesville
9-tied Illinois, Chicago
9-tied Maryland, Baltimore
9-tied Wisconsin
15 USC
16-tied Tennesee Health Science(Memphis)
16-tied Utah
19-tied Kansas
19-tied Pittsburgh
21-tied SUNY, Buffalo
21-tied Virginia Commonwealth
23 Colorado, Denver
24-tied Aurburn
24-tied Medical U. South Carolina

Top Fine Arts Schools
1 Rhode Island School of Design
2 Yale
3 Art Institute Chicago
4-tied Cranbrook Academy(Bloomfield Hills, MI)
4-tied Maryland Institute of Art
4-tied Virginia Commonwealth
7-tied California Institue of the Arts(Valencia)
7-tied Carnegie Mellon
7-tied UCLA
10 Alfred U., New York
11-tied Art Center College of Design(Pasadena, CA)
11-tied California College of the Arts(San Francisco)
11-tied Columbia
14 Temple
15-tied Bard College(Annandale-on-Hudson, NY)
15-tied School of Visual Arts(New York)
15-tied UC San Diego
15-tied Texas, Austin
15-tied Washington U., St Louis
21-tied CUNY, Hunter College(New York)
21-tied New School, Parsons School of Design(New York)
21-tied Rochester Institute of Technology

Best Graduate Schools | Top Graduate Programs | US News Education
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Old 08-31-2011, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX & Miami, FL
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When i was doing it I only found three of the top 20 MSA's without a tier one school. Would you like to take a stab at which two they are??
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I was going to guess Dallas and Miami. Both awesome awesome cities but still in need of an elite school IMO.
I know we all have our own definitions of what consists of "elite" schools or not but Miami is actually very decent in these regards. I know Miami doesn't have many good schools to brag about but it does have one very respectable school on par with UT Austin with University of Miami. University of Miami isn't a super elite or elite school but its a great tier one university nonetheless and should be noted that it puts Miami higher than Dallas or Fort Worth or Tampa on higher educational institutions.

Dallas and Tampa, you are right both have much catching up to do with peer metros.
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Old 08-31-2011, 04:20 PM
 
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Ok has to with the AAMS, Dr of Osteopathy is not included in that list - meaning DO's a slightly different more holistic MD, non AMA physician

PCOM is one example

Philadelphia College of Osteopathic Medicine
yeah, I only took the AAMS schools from each state so people would not start saying such and such schools suck.


anyway, compiling the Top Tier Research schools, Med schools and Law schools, This is the master list so far:

1. New York-33 Top ranked College/ Programs
2. California- 32
3. Texas- 20
4. Illinois- 19
5. Pennsylvania-19
6. Florida-19
7. Ohio-17
8.Massachusetts- 15 (the greatest concentration, being so small)
9. Virginia-14
10. NC- 12
11. Georgia- 11
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Old 08-31-2011, 04:25 PM
 
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I know we all have our own definitions of what consists of "elite" schools or not but Miami is actually very decent in these regards. I know Miami doesn't have many good schools to brag about but it does have one very respectable school on par with UT Austin with University of Miami. University of Miami isn't a super elite or elite school but its a great tier one university nonetheless and should be noted that it puts Miami higher than Dallas or Fort Worth or Tampa on higher educational institutions.

Dallas and Tampa, you are right both have much catching up to do with peer metros.
oh, I was only going for Tier one schools on that one.

and Yes, its a shame that DFW and Tampa have no Tier one schools.

They need to focus more on education. DFW is the 4th largest metro in the country for christsakes. They need to ask Perry for some money converting UT Dallas and Arlington into a Tier one.

Houston has two good Research Schools, 3 medical Schools and 3 Law Schools
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Old 08-31-2011, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX & Miami, FL
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oh, I was only going for Tier one schools on that one.

and Yes, its a shame that DFW and Tampa have no Tier one schools.

They need to focus more on education. DFW is the 4th largest metro in the country for christsakes. They need to ask Perry for some money converting UT Dallas and Arlington into a Tier one.

Houston has two good Research Schools, 3 medical Schools and 3 Law Schools
Metros with the best educational institutions for higher education with super elite schools are Boston, Bay Area, Philadelphia, and New York. Los Angeles has Caltech which is on this level too. Chicago having two elite schools can make a case for this tier too, I'd imagine.

Cities with elite schools are Chicago, Atlanta, Houston, Saint Louis, Washington, Nashville, Raleigh, and Baltimore.

Cities with great tier one universities include Austin, Seattle, Miami, Minneapolis, Detroit, San Diego, Pittsburgh, Tucson, Rochester, Sacramento, Indianapolis, Columbus, and Buffalo.

From the looks of it for their sizes Tampa, Phoenix, Dallas, Portland, Orlando, Jacksonville, Albuquerque, Charlotte, Fort Worth, San Antonio, El Paso, Salt Lake City, Kansas City, Omaha, Milwaukee, New Orleans, Oklahoma City, Tulsa, Memphis, and Louisville all of these cities need to step their game up.
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Old 08-31-2011, 07:50 PM
 
Location: New York City
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montclair: did you mention liberal arts schools on that really long list? I didnt see them, or imay have missed it.
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Old 08-31-2011, 08:02 PM
 
Location: The City
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yeah, I only took the AAMS schools from each state so people would not start saying such and such schools suck.


anyway, compiling the Top Tier Research schools, Med schools and Law schools, This is the master list so far:

1. New York-33 Top ranked College/ Programs
2. California- 32
3. Texas- 20
4. Illinois- 19
5. Pennsylvania-19
6. Florida-19
7. Ohio-17
8.Massachusetts- 15 (the greatest concentration, being so small)
9. Virginia-14
10. NC- 12
11. Georgia- 11

So based on this NY would be tops? TX would be above MA and PA? FL above MA?

Yep makes sense to me
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Old 08-31-2011, 08:04 PM
 
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So based on this NY would be tops? TX would be above MA and PA? FL above MA?

Yep makes sense to me
If Mass. Was 1,000 sq miles larger than it would have more than Penn. RI has several schools on that list.
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Old 08-31-2011, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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montclair: did you mention liberal arts schools on that really long list? I didnt see them, or imay have missed it.
That is US News' most recent ranking of grad schools, which ever small liberal arts colleges have programs good enough to make the ranking are there. I see a few.
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