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Old 08-16-2007, 09:57 AM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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I know this may have been beaten to death, and I've hinted at this on some other threads, but what state really gives out the image of the "real America"? Or at least states that appear "traditional American"?

I can't decide between a few:

Iowa
Indiana
Nebraska
Kansas
Missouri
Vermont
Tennessee
Colorado
Montana

10 years ago, Texas and North Carolina would have made the list, but Texas is so dominated by illegal aliens nowadays. As for NC, its lost its character because of suburban sprawl and transplants from the north.
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Old 08-16-2007, 09:59 AM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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And before I get trashed again for the northern thing, no, the North is not the traditional image of Americana. I made an exception for Vermont/parts of New England cause that is where Norman ROckwell lived and painted most of his life. I think the heart and soul and spirit of America is found in those places of the heartland the South, the small towns, farms, and ranches where most Americans live. Not in the homogenized suburbs and depressing cities of the East and West Coasts or the bigger cities of the South.
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Old 08-16-2007, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Jersey City
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Terrapin, I know you hate the northeast. You've made that plain and clear. But I don't think it deserves the dismissal you've given it here.

I think there are many images of Americana, too many to fit into one state. I'll share the images that come to my mind...

A Memorial Day Parade in a small New England town
Immigrant neighborhoods in Queens, NY
Coal mining communities in Appalachia
A friday night high school football game in the Deep South
A community fair in a Midwest farming community (apple pie anyone?)
A rodeo in the high plains or Rocky Mtn states
Sunny California

These are the traditional Americana images that come to my mind. Unfortunately they're not the places "where most Americans live" anymore. Most Americans today do in fact live in suburbia.
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Old 08-16-2007, 10:21 AM
 
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Wouldn't you have to include New England if you are talking about traditional American? I guess the answer would depend on how you are defining "American," but to me MA is more American than Missouri. Just look at the history.
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Old 08-16-2007, 10:29 AM
 
Location: 3219'03.7"N 10643'55.9"W
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Ohio, Indiana, Illinois (minus Chicago), and Iowa.
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Old 08-16-2007, 10:45 AM
 
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Iammius, I couldn't agree with you more. Great post.
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Old 08-16-2007, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Destined to be banned
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What's your definition of a "real" America? When the buffalo roamed wild and free and the Native Americans hunted and lived off the land? Or when Jim Crow and segregation ruled and the "colored folk" knew their place? Or are you talking about some 1950's Pollyanna fabrication of freckled face blond kids waving American flags while dad drives off to work and the little woman keeps the kitchen smelling like apple pie?
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Old 08-16-2007, 12:26 PM
 
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What's your definition of a "real" America? When the buffalo roamed wild and free and the Native Americans hunted and lived off the land? Or when Jim Crow and segregation ruled and the "colored folk" knew their place? Or are you talking about some 1950's Pollyanna fabrication of freckled face blond kids waving American flags while dad drives off to work and the little woman keeps the kitchen smelling like apple pie?
I think this is definitely the key question: what's "real" America? To me, the definition of America is that it defies any type of definition in the first place. The lefty liberal in San Francisco, the right-wing conservative in Alabama, the immigrant in Queens, the hedge fund manager in Greenwich, the factory worker in Michigan, the farmer in Iowa and everyone else is an American. That's what makes America different from the rest of the world. Therefore, you can't take any one state or region and call it more "American" than any of the others. The whole point of America is that it reflects every race, culture and political viewpoint as opposed to shoehorning everything into conformity.
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Old 08-16-2007, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Cortland, Ohio
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Ohio:

Ohio Travel Guide Ohio Tourist Attractions Ohio Tourism Information Ohio Vacation Resources

4 seasons

Small towns w/flag lined streets, parades, mom and pop shops, antique stores, etc.

The Amish

County fairs

Festivals of all kinds (Italian, African American, Irish, German, music fests, corn, october, pumpkin, church fests, etc)

High school football games

Flatlands, farms, lakes, rivers, streams, hills, mountains (yeah, i know they are small), industrial areas that helped build this country and win our wars (Cleveland, Toledo, Youngstown, Akron, Canton).

World class museums, theatres, and symphonies.

The birthplace of professional football.

I could go on and on...........
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Old 08-16-2007, 12:41 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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Default Must read article

Actually what a coinincidence. This is an article in my campus newspaper today. Keep in mind that the columnist is actually pretty left-leaning and she's still learned to respect the South and really understands where America's soul lies.

Down south - Opinion (http://www.diamondbackonline.com/media/storage/paper873/news/2007/08/16/Opinion/Down-South-2931023.shtml - broken link)

I don't know how the culture of the North, especially New Jersey and Long Island, got so bland and conformist, yet they insist on spreading it wherever they move to!
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