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View Poll Results: Seattle or Toronto
Seattle 57 46.72%
Toronto 65 53.28%
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Old 08-07-2013, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Washington
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Be careful with the GDP stats.
US city GDP stats are good for comparing US cities but not so good when comparing
a US city with cities in other countries.

2 different countries, might to comparing apples to oranges.

Seattle GDP is for huge CSA
US CSA's are gigantic, Seattle's MSA is 5,872 square miles and it's CSA is almost 9,000 square miles.
Seattle population 3.5 million MSA, 4.4 million CSA.

Canada does not keep stats for equivalent to US city CSA.
GDP for Toronto quoted is for much smaller Canadian CMA.
The equivalent to CSA for Toronto would the Golden Horseshoe with total population approx. 8.9 million.
Not Toronto much smaller CMA with only 5.6 million.
Ontario estimated provincial GDP for 2013 is $ 673 billion of which I would estimate Toronto Golden Horseshoe would be about $ 500 billion.
The thing about Seattles CSA is 70% of that land is scarcely populated. The Population o fthe Seattle area is all limited to only about 15 miles east of the puget sound in most Areas. If you took the population of all the cities in the CSA that are just along the sound and a few cities further out then you would get most of the Seattle CSA population. A vast majority of King, Snohomish, and Pierce counties are barely populated due to them being mountainous landscapes. Those areas virtually have no effect on the Seattle GDP. You could shrink the Seattle metro to the size of the Greater Toronto area and the population wouldn't effect much at all. The other reason the Seattle CSA is so big is because it includes the entire counties in it's estimate, Counties in Washington are Very large for the most part. The Greater Toronto area GDP though is over 300 Billion with a population of 5.6 to 6.1 million. Which is alright but other US major cities that size are larger for the most part.
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Old 08-07-2013, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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The thing about Seattles CSA is 70% of that land is scarcely populated. The Population o fthe Seattle area is all limited to only about 15 miles east of the puget sound in most Areas. If you took the population of all the cities in the CSA that are just along the sound and a few cities further out then you would get most of the Seattle CSA population. A vast majority of King, Snohomish, and Pierce counties are barely populated due to them being mountainous landscapes. Those areas virtually have no effect on the Seattle GDP. You could shrink the Seattle metro to the size of the Greater Toronto area and the population wouldn't effect much at all. The other reason the Seattle CSA is so big is because it includes the entire counties in it's estimate, Counties in Washington are Very large for the most part. The Greater Toronto area GDP though is over 300 Billion with a population of 5.6 to 6.1 million. Which is alright but other US major cities that size are larger for the most part.
a GDP of 300 Billion for a city of 6 million is excellent on a global scale and not too shabby even against American cities.. However, you also have to look at how the wealth is distributed. My feeling though admittedly not based on facts or solid data is that the elite wealthy and wealthy in the U.S are wealthier than the elite wealthy and wealthy in Canada - but at the end of the day the GDP numbers don't translate favourably for the AVG American family over the AVG Canadian one when we compare those that live in the largest cities. So while it might be nice to wave the GDP flag for one city over the other in City Data- it does nothing for most people in the largest cities in either Canada or the U.S.

Additionally - due to the equity that Canadian households have in real estate - the average Canadian family is actually wealthier than the average American.
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